Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems.

Posted: 10-06-2005, 09:51 AM

Mark Gillespie

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Is this a genuine Microsoft product? We have a industrial PC from our China
operation, supplied witha COA sticker with this on. I am suspcious. I am
only aware of

XP Embedded
XP Professional

If this is a Microsoft product, how can it be obtained? We are having some
problems with hardware changes from our suppliers, making maintaining our XP
Embedded images and bit of a nightmare, we currently have something close to
"XP Pro" as our embedded image (minus games, and some small bits), but it
still does not always behave the same as XP Pro, and we always get caught out
by missing drivers.

If "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is a genuine Microsoft
product, and it's what I think it is (XP Pro, without the product activation,
and with similar licenencing terms to XP Embedded), this could be the ideal
solution, on how to get XP Pro onto our industrial PCs.

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Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)

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Re: Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems.

Posted: 10-06-2005, 02:00 PM

Hi Mark,

You have few embedded systems available:

WEPOS:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...rpointofse.asp

"Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is genuine MS OS and you should contact your embedded distributor for more infos.

Regards,
Slobodan

"Mark Gillespie" <MarkGillespie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:163F81B7-7736-42EB-9295-88218CE49B12@microsoft.com...

> Is this a genuine Microsoft product? We have a industrial PC from our China
> operation, supplied witha COA sticker with this on. I am suspcious. I am
> only aware of
>
> XP Embedded
> XP Professional
>
> If this is a Microsoft product, how can it be obtained? We are having some
> problems with hardware changes from our suppliers, making maintaining our XP
> Embedded images and bit of a nightmare, we currently have something close to
> "XP Pro" as our embedded image (minus games, and some small bits), but it
> still does not always behave the same as XP Pro, and we always get caught out
> by missing drivers.
>
> If "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is a genuine Microsoft
> product, and it's what I think it is (XP Pro, without the product activation,
> and with similar licenencing terms to XP Embedded), this could be the ideal
> solution, on how to get XP Pro onto our industrial PCs.

Mark Gillespie

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Re: Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems.

Posted: 10-06-2005, 04:49 PM

So it "Windows Embedded for Point of Service" the same as "Windows XP
Professional for Embedded Systems"?

It's not for EPOS systems, and the MSDN does not really tell you what the
differences are between each version. (a very critical bit of information
when choosing the right OS).

We don't really need Embedded XP (which we are currently using). A XP Pro
with similar licencing terms to XPe woulld be more ideal. These arn't
desktop PC's, nor are they embedded devices, they are between the 2.

"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> You have few embedded systems available:
>
> WEPOS:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...rpointofse.asp
>
> "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is genuine MS OS and you should contact your embedded distributor for more infos.
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
> "Mark Gillespie" <MarkGillespie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:163F81B7-7736-42EB-9295-88218CE49B12@microsoft.com...
> > Is this a genuine Microsoft product? We have a industrial PC from our China
> > operation, supplied witha COA sticker with this on. I am suspcious. I am
> > only aware of
> >
> > XP Embedded
> > XP Professional
> >
> > If this is a Microsoft product, how can it be obtained? We are having some
> > problems with hardware changes from our suppliers, making maintaining our XP
> > Embedded images and bit of a nightmare, we currently have something close to
> > "XP Pro" as our embedded image (minus games, and some small bits), but it
> > still does not always behave the same as XP Pro, and we always get caught out
> > by missing drivers.
> >
> > If "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is a genuine Microsoft
> > product, and it's what I think it is (XP Pro, without the product activation,
> > and with similar licenencing terms to XP Embedded), this could be the ideal
> > solution, on how to get XP Pro onto our industrial PCs.
>
>
>

Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)

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Re: Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems.

Posted: 10-06-2005, 05:23 PM

Mark,

WEPOS is new smaller supported OS that have enough of usefull functionality that you will need for your aplications.

> So it "Windows Embedded for Point of Service" the same as "Windows XP
> Professional for Embedded Systems"?

No they are completely different OS-es. And you should be able to read specs of WEPOS in MSDN.
In the end you will have to see licensing terms and price to determine which OS is suitable for you.

Regards,
Slobodan

"Mark Gillespie" <MarkGillespie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> So it "Windows Embedded for Point of Service" the same as "Windows XP
> Professional for Embedded Systems"?
>
> It's not for EPOS systems, and the MSDN does not really tell you what the
> differences are between each version. (a very critical bit of information
> when choosing the right OS).
>
> We don't really need Embedded XP (which we are currently using). A XP Pro
> with similar licencing terms to XPe woulld be more ideal. These arn't
> desktop PC's, nor are they embedded devices, they are between the 2.
>
> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > You have few embedded systems available:
> >
> > WEPOS:
> >

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...rpointofse.asp

> >
> > "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is genuine MS OS and you should contact your embedded distributor for more

infos.

> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > "Mark Gillespie" <MarkGillespie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:163F81B7-7736-42EB-9295-88218CE49B12@microsoft.com...
> > > Is this a genuine Microsoft product? We have a industrial PC from our China
> > > operation, supplied witha COA sticker with this on. I am suspcious. I am
> > > only aware of
> > >
> > > XP Embedded
> > > XP Professional
> > >
> > > If this is a Microsoft product, how can it be obtained? We are having some
> > > problems with hardware changes from our suppliers, making maintaining our XP
> > > Embedded images and bit of a nightmare, we currently have something close to
> > > "XP Pro" as our embedded image (minus games, and some small bits), but it
> > > still does not always behave the same as XP Pro, and we always get caught out
> > > by missing drivers.
> > >
> > > If "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is a genuine Microsoft
> > > product, and it's what I think it is (XP Pro, without the product activation,
> > > and with similar licenencing terms to XP Embedded), this could be the ideal
> > > solution, on how to get XP Pro onto our industrial PCs.
> >
> >
> >

Gordon Smith \(eMVP\)

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Re: Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems.

Posted: 10-06-2005, 05:25 PM

Mark Gillespie wrote:

> So it "Windows Embedded for Point of Service" the same as "Windows XP
> Professional for Embedded Systems"?
>
> It's not for EPOS systems, and the MSDN does not really tell you what
> the
> differences are between each version. (a very critical bit of
> information
> when choosing the right OS).
>
> We don't really need Embedded XP (which we are currently using). A
> XP Pro
> with similar licencing terms to XPe woulld be more ideal. These arn't
> desktop PC's, nor are they embedded devices, they are between the 2.

We all know about "XP Professional" and "XP Embedded". Products that are
available but less well known are:

1. WEPOS aka Windows Embedded for Point of Service. This is built using
XPe but is tailored to the POS customer.
2. "XP Professional for Embedded Systems". This is exactly XP Pro - the
difference is in cost and licensing restrictions.

If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me offline and we can
chat more over the phone. For obvious reasons, I'm not going to post my
phone number in a newsgroup just like people don't post their real email
addresses. A human can easily guess my email address from my posting
address here.

--
Gordon Smith (eMVP)
-- Avnet Applied Computing Solutions

Andy Allred [MS]

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Re: Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems.

Posted: 10-06-2005, 09:57 PM

The missing drivers issue shouldn't be a problem starting with XPe-SP2. You
have a component that allows you to add entire classes of device drivers and
their class installers to the runtime. So you have the potential to have the
same inbox driver experience as Pro.

Of course the footprint hit from doing this is significant, right? In TD,
look in the node under SW | Test & Development for the component "Generic
Device Driver Support". Check its config ui. Let us know at wecrt at
microsoft.com if you have problems with it.

Andy

--
Embedded team blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/embedded/

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Gillespie" <MarkGillespie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:163F81B7-7736-42EB-9295-88218CE49B12@microsoft.com...

> Is this a genuine Microsoft product? We have a industrial PC from our
> China
> operation, supplied witha COA sticker with this on. I am suspcious. I
> am
> only aware of
>
> XP Embedded
> XP Professional
>
> If this is a Microsoft product, how can it be obtained? We are having
> some
> problems with hardware changes from our suppliers, making maintaining our
> XP
> Embedded images and bit of a nightmare, we currently have something close
> to
> "XP Pro" as our embedded image (minus games, and some small bits), but it
> still does not always behave the same as XP Pro, and we always get caught
> out
> by missing drivers.
>
> If "Windows XP Professional for Embedded Systems" is a genuine Microsoft
> product, and it's what I think it is (XP Pro, without the product
> activation,
> and with similar licenencing terms to XP Embedded), this could be the
> ideal
> solution, on how to get XP Pro onto our industrial PCs.

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