Sorry to hear you had too many problems, but i'm curious about your USB
issues, can you fill me in? I've seen you in the newsgroups asking and
helping others for about a year but the threads have been about CF, not
USB.

Thanks Jim, let me know if there is anything we can do to help.

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rights.

Jim,

> > The development costs for XPe is lower then, say, Linux Embedded.

>
> That definitely 'depends'. I agree with about everything that Richard said.
>
> Too many hacks and patches to get this system working. Don't get me started on the EWF.

Agree.

Although, reading some Lenux patch threads on usenet I came to conclusion that there are also many problesm that are still up in the
air.
Days ago I was struggling with a USB stack implementation (following 1.1 specs) and was searching Net for some good info. I was
supprised how many "patches" have been made in the Linux kernel to cover most of the USB devices. This may not be Linux related
problems, rather the USB device manufacturers' poor firmware implementation. But the point is that you sometimes need hacks and
patches on Linux as well.

> I moved our product/team from WinXPe to Linux. We have more control and no

True. You've got most of the OS sources to play with. Not like with XP :-(

> problem with any compact flash card we've thrown at it. No more EWF. USB
> works (never got that going under XPe, and I Google'd the heck out of this newsgroup).

One big concern for many customers of ours when choosing OS was the drivers and applications support.
It is not a secret that Windows has drivers for most of devices on the market. Win32 developer community is also one of the biggest.
When you start a project, you can't not to think about it. Also, it is way too easier to find Windows programmers to hire than Linux
Embedded ones.
This is why I believe the development costs for XPe is lower than for LE.

--
Regards,
KM, BSquare Corp.

Andy Allred [MS] wrote:

> Sorry to hear you had too many problems, but i'm curious about your USB
> issues, can you fill me in? I've seen you in the newsgroups asking and
> helping others for about a year but the threads have been about CF, not
> USB.

Hi Andy

I tried to get my WinXPe image to recognize USB 'pen' storage devices. I
never had any success. I included every component I could think of, based
on information I found in this newsgroup. I never had any success. It was
very easy for me to get this working in linux using hotplug. Every platform
has its own strengths and problems, but I have been able to get every
feature I needed working in linux. I can't say the same for WinXPe.

> Thanks Jim, let me know if there is anything we can do to help.

Well, my build environment mysteriously started logging errors about a year
ago. There was a least one other person on this list with the exact
symptoms. I hadn't made any changes to the component database. The strange
thing was the images worked. Never did figure that one out. I did get some
replies from Microsoft reps, but the final recommended fix was 'reinstall'.
That recommendation is used way too often for my tastes.

Sincerely,

Jim

Hi Jim,

> I tried to get my WinXPe image to recognize USB 'pen' storage devices.

I though that you had problem with booting from USB pen. But making it work was not a problem for anyone so far (at least I think
that).

Add:
"PnP (User - Mode)"
"Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator"
"USB Mass Storage Device"
all three "Disk Drive" components just to be on safe side.

And I will assume that you made other USB devices work so your usb is functional.
Also you can always consult setupapi.log for possible errors why your pen do not start.

Regards,
Slobodan

"Jim Belant" <jbelant@NOSPAMwpsenergy.com> wrote in message news:cmaq4h$2f9v$1@newsfeed.norlight.net...

> Andy Allred [MS] wrote:
>

> > Sorry to hear you had too many problems, but i'm curious about your USB
> > issues, can you fill me in? I've seen you in the newsgroups asking and
> > helping others for about a year but the threads have been about CF, not
> > USB.

>
> Hi Andy
>
> I tried to get my WinXPe image to recognize USB 'pen' storage devices. I
> never had any success. I included every component I could think of, based
> on information I found in this newsgroup. I never had any success. It was
> very easy for me to get this working in linux using hotplug. Every platform
> has its own strengths and problems, but I have been able to get every
> feature I needed working in linux. I can't say the same for WinXPe.
>

> > Thanks Jim, let me know if there is anything we can do to help.

>
> Well, my build environment mysteriously started logging errors about a year
> ago. There was a least one other person on this list with the exact
> symptoms. I hadn't made any changes to the component database. The strange
> thing was the images worked. Never did figure that one out. I did get some
> replies from Microsoft reps, but the final recommended fix was 'reinstall'.
> That recommendation is used way too often for my tastes.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim
>

Jim,

I am also surprised you couldn't get working a USB Pen device under XPe.
Making a bootable image on the Pen is a different story.

Well.. We can complain about USB Mass Storage Device driver implementation on XP but, to be honest, it gets its testing (and
patching) for pretty much any brand available on the market.
That means if you can recognize the Pen under XP Pro, you can definitely make it working on XPe. Just with the Mass Storage Device
driver and appropriate Disk and FS driver. And, of course, PnP support has to be in your image.

--
Regards,
KM, BSquare Corp.

> Andy Allred [MS] wrote:
>

> > Sorry to hear you had too many problems, but i'm curious about your USB
> > issues, can you fill me in? I've seen you in the newsgroups asking and
> > helping others for about a year but the threads have been about CF, not
> > USB.

>
> Hi Andy
>
> I tried to get my WinXPe image to recognize USB 'pen' storage devices. I
> never had any success. I included every component I could think of, based
> on information I found in this newsgroup. I never had any success. It was
> very easy for me to get this working in linux using hotplug. Every platform
> has its own strengths and problems, but I have been able to get every
> feature I needed working in linux. I can't say the same for WinXPe.
>

> > Thanks Jim, let me know if there is anything we can do to help.

>
> Well, my build environment mysteriously started logging errors about a year
> ago. There was a least one other person on this list with the exact
> symptoms. I hadn't made any changes to the component database. The strange
> thing was the images worked. Never did figure that one out. I did get some
> replies from Microsoft reps, but the final recommended fix was 'reinstall'.
> That recommendation is used way too often for my tastes.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim
>