Wireless Zero Configuration still not fixed in SP1

have you set your router to g only mode as opposed to mixed b/g?

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:29:46 -0500, Ebay
<Ebay.36wqk2@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>
>Im having those "60 seconds" lag spikes since i had this brand new
>computer and i can believe i bough a gaming computer with vista on it. I
>hoped months and months that it would be solved in an update, then i
>hoped Sp1 would be the ultimate solution. I then read that the sp1 would
>be fixing network bugs. I was so happy. Sp1 finally finished
>downloading. I open my games with a big smile. 10-15-25-50-60... The lag
>spike. I was almost crying
>I already sent a message to microsoft and they told me that the bug
>would probably be fixed in the Sp1.
>
>This is ruining my gaming experience.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
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"JohnDavid" <JohnDavid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Another solution (workaround) is the use of Gibson's (www.grc.com) Wizmo
> multi-utility. It's "Wanlock" feature is used to disable the Wireless
> Zero
> Configuration service after a satisfactory wireless connection has been
> established.

Ok, I've looked at Vista Anti-Lag by Julian Meisel (
http://www.codecase.de )

Basically it seems to use the documented API of Vista, WlanSetInterface, to
set parameter
wlan_intf_opcode_background_scan_enabled and maybe also
wlan_intf_opcode_media_streaming_mode.

This API is the documented way to suspend scanning by the OS WLAN
configuration,
and the device driver as well.

This situation is similar to starting a long operation like backup or CD
burning:
there's some API that prevents the system from going to standby.
Games or media apps that communicate over wi-fi are supposed to use the
above API
to avoid disruptions.
Anyway, the intention to have the OS automagically detect and handle this
have not
been realized, so we just have to thank Julian for this very handy utility.

Regards,
--PA

I too had this problem, I can't believe we had to resort to a third-party
software for a fix, Microsoft should have provided something to fix this a
long time ago. I switched to Vista as soon as it was out and I thought SP1
would solve this, it didn't. I've always gotten the latest Windows OS out but
this has taught me to be more cautious of future Windows releases. Anyways,
thanks to whoever posted the vista anti-lag, after such a long time searching
for a solution, it's about time. Hopefully Microsoft will respond better to
issues like this in the future, it's such a simple fix too.

Annoyed-Gamer I fully agree.

I am still having this problem. I have tried VAL, WLAN autoconfig, netsh
commands and to no avail I still see the lag spikes in online gaming and by
pinging my router.

I have a DWL-G510 rev C pci wireless card (using DWL-G510 64bitVista Driver)
and netcomm nb5 plus 4w modem-router under 64bit home premium.

I would love to know MS official response to this issue, seems that a google
/ yahoo search on the matter yields lots of sites and complaints and still
alot of gamers still experiencing the problem, even after trying the fixes.

Please Please help ms as this is the most annoying vista trait, otherwise my
vista experience has been great...

"Annoyed-Gamer" wrote:

> This message is in regards to the Wireless Zero Configuration not being fixed
> in SP1.
>
> This is a serious issue for multiplayer gaming enthusiasts who play
> wirelessly. This system causes a lag spike in games that lasts between 1-3
> seconds and reoccurs EVERY 60 SECONDS. This is unacceptable! This makes
> playing games over a wireless connection completely unbearable!
>
> The problem goes like this. Every 60 seconds, via Wlan autoconfig (WZC), my
> computer (and ANY computer using Vista and wireless connection) attempts to
> find the best connection. During this time period, if you're doing something
> intensive with your connection such as playing a game, the connection spikes
> and causes an intermission between your game and the server you're playing on
> because your connection is being temporarily interrupted. There are no
> options to stop WZC from doing this. Manually disabling Wlan autoconfig
> causes you to be shut out from connecting to the internet at all.
>
> 3rd party programs have been made to alleviate this issue, many complain
> they don't work, or only help a little. Some have offered help in the form
> of commands for use in the command prompt; these too fail to alleviate the
> problem. Microsoft seems to be the only ones who can fix this, and we want a
> fix ASAP. There should be an option to disable this scan from occurring. An
> option that allows us to maintain a connection to a specific connection
> without our system scanning for a new one every 60 seconds. Please let us
> know you are working on a solution.
>
> If you parse the internet for 60 second lag on vista, or vista wireless
> gaming time outs, or anything of the like, you will find there is an
> outstanding number of people experiencing this problem with no solution to
> it. I have no doubts in my mind, given how word-of-mouth the gaming
> community is, that this is just one of the many reasons so few have adopted
> Vista yet and prefer XP. Gamers are heralded by their peers as "tech gurus"
> due to their misconceptions. But, because of this, if a gamer says Vista is
> bad, the flock listens, after all, this person spends a lot of time with
> computers so they must know what they're talking about, right? While they
> may not in actuality, their opinion is still regarded as truth. This is
> where word-of-mouth takes on a life of its own and holds back sales! I can
> guarantee you if this issue is fixed swiftly and properly, with no trace of
> the problem existing after the "fix" many gamers will rejoice, and word will
> spread.
>
> Please take this issue seriously! I know that you will consider Wlan
> autoconfig to be "working as intended" but we are people, not numbers, and we
> want a real answer! No corporate responses, please! We deserve a solution!
>
> Thank you.
>
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I have been following this problem for some time. I do not know much
about computers but I have come to realise that this "wireless spike"
problem every 1-2 minutes only occurs on PCI wireless cards. There seems
to be absolutely no spikes on any USB wireless cards. I have tested this
by borrowing/buying many different wireless cards out of sheer
frustration.

Hope this helps.


--
PhurBos

"PhurBos" <PhurBos.37luq1@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> I have been following this problem for some time. I do not know much
> about computers but I have come to realise that this "wireless spike"
> problem every 1-2 minutes only occurs on PCI wireless cards. There seems
> to be absolutely no spikes on any USB wireless cards. I have tested this
> by borrowing/buying many different wireless cards out of sheer
> frustration.

Could you post the models you've tried?

Regards,
--PA

I hope this isnt MS official response. This is not a matter of wireless lag
but as Vraedac put it its about 1-2 sec of pause every 60 sec, which is
enough to ruin a session of games and music...surely it is obviously a OS
issue...no wonder this problem isnt getting a fix when we get un-constructive
responses like this...poor effort.

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> It is Not an OS issue, Wireless by the the virtue of its technology insert a
> lag into its traffic.
> If some one gaming is so important to him that he can not enjoy it with
> slight lag he should Not play over Wireless.
> You do not use a MiniCooper when you need to transport a tone of sand to a
> construction site.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Annoyed-Gamer" <Annoyed-Gamer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:11E34B2C-B9AD-401E-98F9-566193CA61FB@microsoft.com...

>
>

Hi !
I'm a french user of Vista Home Premium 64 Bits (SP1 included) and i confirm that this bug is very annoying.
I tried Vista Anti-Lag, WLAN Optimizer and netsh command with no result.

My PCI Wifi card is a Hercules HWGPCI-54 and the "Wifi Station Utility" doesn't work at all so i have no other choice than using the Vista integrated Wifi Utility.
Those lags every 60 seconds can't let me play to my favorite online games.

The spikes can be seen in HLSW as shows this picture:


I have contacted Microsoft technical support, i have no response at the moment, Hercules technical support, they are searching why the 3rd party driver doe'snt work properly.

Please, Microsoft, hear us, we are millions worldwide experiencing this problem.
Could you make a tickable box to choose to scan every minute for networks or not, please !


Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums

Hi !
I'm a french user of Vista Home Premium 64 Bits (SP1 included) and i confirm that this bug is very annoying.
I tried Vista Anti-Lag, WLAN Optimizer and netsh command with no result.

My PCI Wifi card is a Hercules HWGPCI-54 and the "Wifi Station Utility" doesn't work at all so i have no other choice than using the Vista integrated Wifi Utility.
Those lags every 60 seconds can't let me play to my favorite online games.

The spikes can be seen in HLSW as shows this picture:


I have contacted Microsoft technical support, i have no response at the moment, Hercules technical support, they are searching why the 3rd party driver doe'snt work properly.

Please, Microsoft, hear us, we are millions worldwide experiencing this problem.
Could you make a tickable box to choose to scan every minute for networks or not, please !


Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums

Woka,

Thanks for posting your problem. I check these posts and others regularly
for any sign that a fix for this is imminent and yet to see any official ms
response and possible fix, so I hope you keep us informed if you recieve
anything constructive or helpful.

Regards

"Woka" wrote:

> Hi !
> I'm a french user of Vista Home Premium 64 Bits (SP1 included) and i confirm that this bug is very annoying.
> I tried Vista Anti-Lag, WLAN Optimizer and netsh command with no result.
>
> My PCI Wifi card is a Hercules HWGPCI-54 and the "Wifi Station Utility" doesn't work at all so i have no other choice than using the Vista integrated Wifi Utility.
> Those lags every 60 seconds can't let me play to my favorite online games.
>
> The spikes can be seen in HLSW as shows this picture:
>
>
> I have contacted Microsoft technical support, i have no response at the moment, Hercules technical support, they are searching why the 3rd party driver doe'snt work properly.
>
> Please, Microsoft, hear us, we are millions worldwide experiencing this problem.
> Could you make a tickable box to choose to scan every minute for networks or not, please !
>
>
> Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums
>