WoW + Vista Ult 64x Framerates are horrible...

> digiegg;920003 Wrote:

>> Hey guys,
>> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
>> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
>> Here's my setup.
>>
>> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
>> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
>> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
>> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas?

NormCameron <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0@nntp-gateway.com:

> It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highest
> settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if you
> want to play at max.

Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to disable
in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.

Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did you try
disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)?

When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get really low
framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually lag
refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering at
times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower while it's
buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to use more
RAM than it ever has before.

My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rpm
generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time to pre-
load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run around for
a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to get
everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out.

Loading time seems to take much longer now as well.

Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have a
decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this.

Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (If you're
on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa)

GL,
-Joe/Andy
--
Joe

Joe;923433 Wrote:

> > digiegg;920003 Wrote:> > > > > > > >

> > > >> Hey guys
> > > >> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW
> > > >> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ra
> > > flawlessly
> > > >> Here's my setup
> > > >
> > > >> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core
> > > >> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.4
> > > >> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD
> > > >> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP
> > > >
> > > >> Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > >

>
> NormCameron <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote i
> news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0@xxxxxx-gateway.com

> > > >
> > > It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highes
> > > settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if yo
> > > want to play at max. > >

>
> *Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option t
> disable
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.
>
> Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did yo
> tr
> disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)
>
> When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get reall
> lo
> framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually la
> refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering a
> times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower whil
> it'
> buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to us
> mor
> RAM than it ever has before
>
> My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rp
> generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time t
> pre
> load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run aroun
> fo
> a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to ge
> everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out
>
> Loading time seems to take much longer now as well
>
> Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have
> decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this
>
> Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (I
> you'r
> on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa
>
> GL
> -Joe/And
> -
> Jo

*"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option t
disable
*in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."

Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it

--
sygnus2

Enlighten me please; I may have some ignorance that I nee
banished.
–Judge Joe Brown-
'-_my_website_-_www.exposedvisions.com_-
(http://www.exposedvisions.com)

sygnus21 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:4e344c3702ed0ed47f94caf04fa04868@nntp-gateway.com:

> *"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to
> disable*
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."*
>
> Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it.

I used to work tech support when DirectX 1-3 was popular (EA, best job
ever back in those days). Trying to explain what DirectX was to people
was hard enough. About as hard as explaining that they could (or should)
not uninstall DirectX and it would not effect programs that did not use
DirectX. Then having to explain why they needed to update their video
card drivers, etc etc etc.

Good times...

Yes people, it's the game that determines what version of DirectX you are
using, not the computer. Upgrading to Vista doesn't make WoW look better,
unless you upgrade your video card at the same time.

Upgrading to Vista does make Lord of the Rings Online look better (if you
turn on Dx10 mode, and you have a Dx10 compatible video card). There's a
handful of other Dx10 games.

Is Dx10 worth it? I say, depends on how into graphics you are. My coder
friends say that coding in Dx10 is SOOOO much easier than coding in Dx9,
so they say, please for the love of all that is holy, get Vista. haha.

Some say that 10 doesn't look much better in some games like Bioshock, so
it's possible that some devs are flubbing dx9 to make dx10 look better.
I've also heard that if you put extra work into your dx9 code you can
make it look as good as dx10, but it just takes more time. Not sure which
to believe. ah, well.

--
Joe

sygnus21 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:4e344c3702ed0ed47f94caf04fa04868@nntp-gateway.com:

> *"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to
> disable*
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."*
>
> Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it.

I used to work tech support when DirectX 1-3 was popular (EA, best job
ever back in those days). Trying to explain what DirectX was to people
was hard enough. About as hard as explaining that they could (or should)
not uninstall DirectX and it would not effect programs that did not use
DirectX. Then having to explain why they needed to update their video
card drivers, etc etc etc.

Good times...

Yes people, it's the game that determines what version of DirectX you are
using, not the computer. Upgrading to Vista doesn't make WoW look better,
unless you upgrade your video card at the same time.

Upgrading to Vista does make Lord of the Rings Online look better (if you
turn on Dx10 mode, and you have a Dx10 compatible video card). There's a
handful of other Dx10 games.

Is Dx10 worth it? I say, depends on how into graphics you are. My coder
friends say that coding in Dx10 is SOOOO much easier than coding in Dx9,
so they say, please for the love of all that is holy, get Vista. haha.

Some say that 10 doesn't look much better in some games like Bioshock, so
it's possible that some devs are flubbing dx9 to make dx10 look better.
I've also heard that if you put extra work into your dx9 code you can
make it look as good as dx10, but it just takes more time. Not sure which
to believe. ah, well.

--
Joe

Joe;923433 Wrote:

> > digiegg;920003 Wrote:> > > > > > > >

> > > >> Hey guys
> > > >> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW
> > > >> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ra
> > > flawlessly
> > > >> Here's my setup
> > > >
> > > >> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core
> > > >> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.4
> > > >> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD
> > > >> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP
> > > >
> > > >> Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > >

>
> NormCameron <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote i
> news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0@xxxxxx-gateway.com

> > > >
> > > It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highes
> > > settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if yo
> > > want to play at max. > >

>
> *Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option t
> disable
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.
>
> Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did yo
> tr
> disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)
>
> When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get reall
> lo
> framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually la
> refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering a
> times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower whil
> it'
> buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to us
> mor
> RAM than it ever has before
>
> My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rp
> generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time t
> pre
> load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run aroun
> fo
> a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to ge
> everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out
>
> Loading time seems to take much longer now as well
>
> Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have
> decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this
>
> Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (I
> you'r
> on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa
>
> GL
> -Joe/And
> -
> Jo

*"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option t
disable
*in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."

Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it

--
sygnus2

Enlighten me please; I may have some ignorance that I nee
banished.
–Judge Joe Brown-
'-_my_website_-_www.exposedvisions.com_-
(http://www.exposedvisions.com)

Joe;923433 Wrote:

> > digiegg;920003 Wrote:> > > > > > > >

> > > >> Hey guys
> > > >> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW
> > > >> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ra
> > > flawlessly
> > > >> Here's my setup
> > > >
> > > >> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core
> > > >> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.4
> > > >> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD
> > > >> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP
> > > >
> > > >> Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > >

>
> NormCameron <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote i
> news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0@xxxxxx-gateway.com

> > > >
> > > It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highes
> > > settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if yo
> > > want to play at max. > >

>
> *Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option t
> disable
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.
>
> Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did yo
> tr
> disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)
>
> When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get reall
> lo
> framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually la
> refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering a
> times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower whil
> it'
> buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to us
> mor
> RAM than it ever has before
>
> My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rp
> generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time t
> pre
> load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run aroun
> fo
> a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to ge
> everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out
>
> Loading time seems to take much longer now as well
>
> Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have
> decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this
>
> Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (I
> you'r
> on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa
>
> GL
> -Joe/And
> -
> Jo

*"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option t
disable
*in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."

Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it

--
sygnus2

Enlighten me please; I may have some ignorance that I nee
banished.
–Judge Joe Brown-
'-_my_website_-_www.exposedvisions.com_-
(http://www.exposedvisions.com)

> digiegg;920003 Wrote:

>> Hey guys,
>> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
>> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
>> Here's my setup.
>>
>> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
>> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
>> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
>> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas?

NormCameron <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0@nntp-gateway.com:

> It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highest
> settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if you
> want to play at max.

Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to disable
in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.

Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did you try
disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)?

When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get really low
framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually lag
refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering at
times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower while it's
buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to use more
RAM than it ever has before.

My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rpm
generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time to pre-
load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run around for
a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to get
everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out.

Loading time seems to take much longer now as well.

Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have a
decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this.

Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (If you're
on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa)

GL,
-Joe/Andy
--
Joe

I have an 880GT (not the GTS) but I am not on a mac and I was getting uneven
framerates, ~20-40 in normal areas with the highest setting and 1600x1200
24bit8x. However in Dalaran and Shatt I got about 5fps - completely
unplayable. I had to move down to "Medium" settings to get things to even
out (40-70fps) and Dalaran is still terrible (about 15fps) and I get out of
there as fast as I can. The "Shadows" setting seems to be a real hog, try
setting it off, things are not as nice lookingbut I would rather have less
shadows and more draw-distance!

Mark


"digiegg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:b33a98c949837155cf93251d6c54eadb@nntp-gateway.com...

>
> Hey guys,
> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
> Here's my setup.
>
> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>
> I honestly don't think I should be having any problems with lag at the
> highest setting with this set up.
> It must be the Vista Ultimate 64bit that's causing the lag some how...
> I did try out an older driver for the video card and it's still the
> same...
> I have Aero turned off and optimized Vista also.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
>
> --
> digiegg