Re: Writing to CD Rom's

Posted: 07-21-2003, 05:10 AM
James Szidik said:

> I previously had Roxio Easy Creator CD 6.0 in which you
> could pre-format and entire data CD if it was a CD-RW,
> then use it as you would a floppy. Is there any way to
> pre-format a CD with the embedded Windows XP CD writer
> software? I appears as though the XP software formats
> the CD as it writes the files and for me this takes too
> long. Help!
No way. See http://www.aumha.org/a/xpcd.htm

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Jim Macklin
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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-21-2003, 06:03 AM
Just install EZCD 6. You can use either a CD-R or a CD-RW
disk for packet writing (Direct CD) although a RW disk is
preferred because you can append to a file, a CD-R is not
quite as flexible with changing files.


"James Szidik" <szidikj@chartermi.net> wrote in message
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| I previously had Roxio Easy Creator CD 6.0 in which you
| could pre-format and entire data CD if it was a CD-RW,
| then use it as you would a floppy. Is there any way to
| pre-format a CD with the embedded Windows XP CD writer
| software? I appears as though the XP software formats
| the CD as it writes the files and for me this takes too
| long. Help!


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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-21-2003, 01:46 PM
James Szidik wrote:
>I previously had Roxio Easy Creator CD 6.0 in which you
>could pre-format and entire data CD if it was a CD-RW,
>then use it as you would a floppy. Is there any way to
>pre-format a CD with the embedded Windows XP CD writer
>software?
Easy CD Creator does *not* format a CD-RW - that is the other method of
making CDs using the related Direct CD. Although the inbuilt burning
*looks* like that approach, it isn't and there is no formatting
involved. Read up more at http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpcd.htm

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Ted
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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-21-2003, 05:39 PM

"Alex Nichol" <alexn.mvpdts@ntlworld.delete.com> wrote in message news:r2onhv4hcre60ckqp4nba8obssi78sq6gg@4ax.com...
James Szidik wrote:
> > I previously had Roxio Easy Creator CD 6.0 in which you
> > could pre-format and entire data CD if it was a CD-RW,
> > then use it as you would a floppy. Is there any way to
> > pre-format a CD with the embedded Windows XP CD writer
> > software?
> Easy CD Creator does *not* format a CD-RW """
What's your definition of *format* ? EZCD 6.0 does format CD-RWs, and can prepare the disk for Drag-n-Drop usage (packet writing), which is great for manipulating individual files on the disk. Don't come back and say that EZ 6.0 does not format, when I have formatted CDRWs quite a few times with it already, though it takes time to do so.
> that is the other method of making CDs using the related Direct CD.
Umm, he said Roxio Easy CD Creator version 6.0, in which it has the Drag-n-Drop feature, and is essentially the same function as Direct CD in versions 4. 0* through 5. ** ! What other method is there (other than the name differences) with packet writing software made by Roxio?
> Although the inbuilt burning*looks* like that approach, it isn't and there is no formatting
> involved. Read up more at http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpcd.htm
You are totally gormless, as what does this have to do with your statement about Roxio's product? It seems you have confused your whole post!




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NoNoBadDog!
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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-21-2003, 08:03 PM
Alex, I think you really stumbled on this one. EZCD Creator 6 does indeed
format CD-RW discs, and has since version 3.5. New lead-in and lead-out
fields must be registered, as well as setting a dynamic file for the File
allocation table and housekeeping duties.
I usually agree with your posts, but I think you are dead wrong on this one.

Bobby

"Alex Nichol" <alexn.mvpdts@ntlworld.delete.com> wrote in message
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James Szidik wrote:
>I previously had Roxio Easy Creator CD 6.0 in which you
>could pre-format and entire data CD if it was a CD-RW,
>then use it as you would a floppy. Is there any way to
>pre-format a CD with the embedded Windows XP CD writer
>software?
Easy CD Creator does *not* format a CD-RW - that is the other method of
making CDs using the related Direct CD. Although the inbuilt burning
*looks* like that approach, it isn't and there is no formatting
involved. Read up more at http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpcd.htm

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Bournemouth, U.K. Alexn@mvps.org


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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-22-2003, 04:01 PM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>Alex, I think you really stumbled on this one. EZCD Creator 6 does indeed
>format CD-RW discs, and has since version 3.5. New lead-in and lead-out
>fields must be registered, as well as setting a dynamic file for the File
>allocation table and housekeeping duties.
>I usually agree with your posts, but I think you are dead wrong on this one.
It writes the lead in and lead out as part of burning an ISO session -
just as any of the mastering programs do, formatting and writing the
block structure of the disk as it goes along. What it does *not* do is
a preformat of the disk as used in the packet writing programs like
DIrect CD (and now in version 6, 'Drag to Disk'). and this is what is
normally taken as the meaning of 'formatting' in the context of a
CD-R(W)


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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-22-2003, 05:13 PM

"Alex Nichol" <alexn.mvpdts@ntlworld.delete.com> wrote in message news:q9kqhv0foqpht1rfafnecmdu1m3bqbi1tq@4ax.com...

"""What it does *not* do isa preformat of the disk as used in the
packet writing programs like DIrect CD (and now in version 6, 'Drag to Disk').
and this is what is normally taken as the meaning of 'formatting' in the context of a
CD-R(W)"""

You are a total pillock on this one! It does too (pre)format ("pre-format" being a bad term, since one is either formatted or not) a disk for packet writing (how else could it prepare the disk for this use?). I just performed this task the other day with my EASY CD version 6 Drag-n-Drop formatting process (since it needs to do that anyway to be able to use this feature), so I could drag-n-drop files I recieve on the fly, for storage. I have 4 blank disks formatted now to UDF format using the format process under the Drag-n-Drop command, to be used specifically for this use.

If you post back stating otherwise, I'll make you look real foolish with an actual screenshot of a blank formatted CDRW disk, as shown under the drive properties!


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Posted: 07-23-2003, 03:58 AM
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:13:32 GMT, "Ted" <"""""> wrote:
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>"Alex Nichol" <alexn.mvpdts@ntlworld.delete.com> wrote in message news:q9kqhv0foqpht1rfafnecmdu1m3bqbi1tq@4ax.com...
>
>"""What it does *not* do isa preformat of the disk as used in the
> packet writing programs like DIrect CD (and now in version 6, 'Drag to Disk').
> and this is what is normally taken as the meaning of 'formatting' in the context of a
>CD-R(W)"""
>
>You are a total pillock on this one! It does too (pre)format ("pre-format" being a bad term, since one is either formatted or not) a disk for packet writing (how else could it prepare the disk for this use?). I just performed this task the other day with my EASY CD version 6 Drag-n-Drop formatting process (since it needs to do that anyway to be able to use this feature), so I could drag-n-drop files I recieve on the fly, for storage. I have 4 blank disks formatted now to UDF format using the format process under the Drag-n-Drop command, to be used specifically for this use.
>
>If you post back stating otherwise, I'll make you look real foolish with an actual screenshot of a blank formatted CDRW disk, as shown under the drive properties!
>
OK, OK, you says format, you say format, but you are really talking
about two things as different as apples and string beans.

The most common meaning of Format in CDR/CDRW is for setting up the
disk for Packet Writing Format - the ability to use the CD as a big
floppy disc. The CDR/CDRW must be properly "formatted" to do this,.
using lots of disc space for overhead.

When doing mastering (ie, NOT packet-writing), the term "format" is
generally not used. That is What Alex was talking about. Writing the
lead-in/lead-out and setting up the FAT on the CD is not usually
defined as formatting the CD. Formatting is usually only used in
conjunction with packet-writing.

Waiting eagerly for your rebuttal.

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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-23-2003, 10:00 PM

"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:j6urhvk1ce6gv3f0eei0h0jcmd891bbb6u@4ax.com...
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> OK, OK, you says format, you say format, but you are really talking
> about two things as different as apples and string beans.
Bwahahahahahaha!

Ok, "format", is different than "format", but different than the other, that's situated over there "format"

I guess you think that "fucking", and "sucking" are big cities in China!
> The most common meaning of Format in CDR/CDRW is for setting up the
> disk for Packet Writing Format - the ability to use the CD as a big
> floppy disc. The CDR/CDRW must be properly "formatted" to do this,.
> using lots of disc space for overhead.
So, you just confirmed that this is formatting, you pillocking fuckwit!
> When doing mastering (ie, NOT packet-writing), the term "format" is
> generally not used. That is What Alex was talking about. Writing the
> lead-in/lead-out and setting up the FAT on the CD is not usually
> defined as formatting the CD. Formatting is usually only used in
> conjunction with packet-writing.
>
Alex said;

"Easy CD Creator does *not* format a CD-RW - that is the other method of
making CDs using the related Direct CD"

Drag-n-Drop in version 6 of Easy Cd is the same thing a Direct CD, and vesion 6 *DOES* format the disk in preperation for packet writing, (as I stated before, but you don't read well, you twit!).
Anyway, you're purely gormless! Read the thread again, then you can FOAD!
> Waiting eagerly for your rebuttal.
>
Still, you can FOAD!

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Re: Writing to CD Rom's
Posted: 07-24-2003, 12:25 AM
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:00:50 GMT, " Ted" <"""""'""""""> wrote:
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>"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:j6urhvk1ce6gv3f0eei0h0jcmd891bbb6u@4ax.com...
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>>
>> OK, OK, you says format, you say format, but you are really talking
>> about two things as different as apples and string beans.
>
>Bwahahahahahaha!
>
>Ok, "format", is different than "format", but different than the other, that's situated over there "format"
>
>I guess you think that "fucking", and "sucking" are big cities in China!
>
>> The most common meaning of Format in CDR/CDRW is for setting up the
>> disk for Packet Writing Format - the ability to use the CD as a big
>> floppy disc. The CDR/CDRW must be properly "formatted" to do this,.
>> using lots of disc space for overhead.
>
>So, you just confirmed that this is formatting, you pillocking fuckwit!
>
>> When doing mastering (ie, NOT packet-writing), the term "format" is
>> generally not used. That is What Alex was talking about. Writing the
>> lead-in/lead-out and setting up the FAT on the CD is not usually
>> defined as formatting the CD. Formatting is usually only used in
>> conjunction with packet-writing.
>>
>
>Alex said;
>
>"Easy CD Creator does *not* format a CD-RW - that is the other method of
>making CDs using the related Direct CD"
>
>Drag-n-Drop in version 6 of Easy Cd is the same thing a Direct CD, and vesion 6 *DOES* format the disk in preperation for packet writing, (as I stated before, but you don't read well, you twit!).
>Anyway, you're purely gormless! Read the thread again, then you can FOAD!
>
>> Waiting eagerly for your rebuttal.
>>
>
>Still, you can FOAD!
OK, since you obviosly miss the point (as you always seem to do),
PLONK

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