xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer

Posted: 01-01-2009, 04:02 AM
My Vista Business system is sharing its internet connection with 2
XP computers ( 1 Pro, the other home edition). I did not have a problem
until recently. The XP computers have no problem accessing the internet,
and I have installed and used a printer shared from the Vista system on the
XP home edition computer. I cannot access or even see the shared folders on
the Vista system. When either xp system expands My Network Places->Entire
Network->Microsoft Windows Network->workgroup all of the connected pcs are
displayed, clicking on the +next to the Vista's systemname makes the +
disappear, and clicking on the name gets the following error message " \\
Martins-new-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have permissions. Access denied."

Vista Network & Sharing Center has network listed as private with
Network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and printer sharing
all on. Password protected sharing and Media sharing are off. I have read
all of the troubleshooting help files and am at a loss. All shares give
'Everyone' permission to access.The xp computers were able to access Vista
shares about two weeks ago andbefore that with no problem. In the interim I
have installed Visual Studio .Net 2008 plus recent automatic windows
updates. I feel that there is probably a simple solution since ICS and
printer sharing are working fine.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Martins Gulbis

xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer


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xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-01-2009, 04:02 AM
My Vista Business system is sharing its internet connection with 2
XP computers ( 1 Pro, the other home edition). I did not have a problem
until recently. The XP computers have no problem accessing the internet,
and I have installed and used a printer shared from the Vista system on the
XP home edition computer. I cannot access or even see the shared folders on
the Vista system. When either xp system expands My Network Places->Entire
Network->Microsoft Windows Network->workgroup all of the connected pcs are
displayed, clicking on the +next to the Vista's systemname makes the +
disappear, and clicking on the name gets the following error message " \\
Martins-new-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have permissions. Access denied."

Vista Network & Sharing Center has network listed as private with
Network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and printer sharing
all on. Password protected sharing and Media sharing are off. I have read
all of the troubleshooting help files and am at a loss. All shares give
'Everyone' permission to access.The xp computers were able to access Vista
shares about two weeks ago andbefore that with no problem. In the interim I
have installed Visual Studio .Net 2008 plus recent automatic windows
updates. I feel that there is probably a simple solution since ICS and
printer sharing are working fine.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Martins Gulbis

Hans-Georg Michna
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Re: xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-01-2009, 04:37 PM
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:02:12 -0800, Martins wrote:
> My Vista Business system is sharing its internet connection with 2
>XP computers ( 1 Pro, the other home edition). I did not have a problem
>until recently. The XP computers have no problem accessing the internet,
>and I have installed and used a printer shared from the Vista system on the
>XP home edition computer. I cannot access or even see the shared folders on
>the Vista system. When either xp system expands My Network Places->Entire
>Network->Microsoft Windows Network->workgroup all of the connected pcs are
>displayed, clicking on the +next to the Vista's systemname makes the +
>disappear, and clicking on the name gets the following error message " \\
>Martins-new-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
>network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
>you have permissions. Access denied."
>
> Vista Network & Sharing Center has network listed as private with
>Network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and printer sharing
>all on. Password protected sharing and Media sharing are off. I have read
>all of the troubleshooting help files and am at a loss. All shares give
>'Everyone' permission to access.The xp computers were able to access Vista
>shares about two weeks ago andbefore that with no problem. In the interim I
>have installed Visual Studio .Net 2008 plus recent automatic windows
>updates. I feel that there is probably a simple solution since ICS and
>printer sharing are working fine.
Martins,

first of all, do yourself a favor and buy a suitable router.
Even the cheapest router is better than an
Internet-connection-sharing computer, and a simple router is
truly cheap.

Apart from that, the basic information is at
http://winhlp.com/node/179 . If that doesn't cut it, check
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm .

Hans-Georg
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Re: xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-01-2009, 04:37 PM
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:02:12 -0800, Martins wrote:
> My Vista Business system is sharing its internet connection with 2
>XP computers ( 1 Pro, the other home edition). I did not have a problem
>until recently. The XP computers have no problem accessing the internet,
>and I have installed and used a printer shared from the Vista system on the
>XP home edition computer. I cannot access or even see the shared folders on
>the Vista system. When either xp system expands My Network Places->Entire
>Network->Microsoft Windows Network->workgroup all of the connected pcs are
>displayed, clicking on the +next to the Vista's systemname makes the +
>disappear, and clicking on the name gets the following error message " \\
>Martins-new-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
>network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
>you have permissions. Access denied."
>
> Vista Network & Sharing Center has network listed as private with
>Network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and printer sharing
>all on. Password protected sharing and Media sharing are off. I have read
>all of the troubleshooting help files and am at a loss. All shares give
>'Everyone' permission to access.The xp computers were able to access Vista
>shares about two weeks ago andbefore that with no problem. In the interim I
>have installed Visual Studio .Net 2008 plus recent automatic windows
>updates. I feel that there is probably a simple solution since ICS and
>printer sharing are working fine.
Martins,

first of all, do yourself a favor and buy a suitable router.
Even the cheapest router is better than an
Internet-connection-sharing computer, and a simple router is
truly cheap.

Apart from that, the basic information is at
http://winhlp.com/node/179 . If that doesn't cut it, check
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm .

Hans-Georg
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Re: xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-01-2009, 05:15 PM
Presuming all computers are sharing the internet connection via a
wired/wireless router you are encountering classic Vista networking
insanity.
Realize that Vista was programmed by morons who think you are an idiot:
there is no other way to explain the UAC and the way network sharing is
deliberately obfuscated.
Out of the box Vista expects you will place anything you want to share on
the network in its "public" folders and nowhere else. That the public folder
exists only on your C drive, which there are good reasons not to share,
never seemed to have occurred to the brilliant programmers in Redmond. If
you can live with that arrangement your life will be easier.
It has been my sad experience that it can take multiple tries and reboots to
get the sharing/ownership permissions to work properly. This can be very
frustrating if the computers are not physically near one another and you
have to go back and forth to see if following the instructions has actually
worked (as alas it often does not). The combination of XP and Vista on a
network is doubly frustrating as the rules for sharing network resources are
different (simpler on XP) and Vista has issues, never resolved, sharing with
wireless XP machines.
The problems are solvable but require more effort than it should.
At least you will soon be able to buy Vista SP3, I mean Windows 7, and start
over with new network rules.

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Re: xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-01-2009, 05:15 PM
Presuming all computers are sharing the internet connection via a
wired/wireless router you are encountering classic Vista networking
insanity.
Realize that Vista was programmed by morons who think you are an idiot:
there is no other way to explain the UAC and the way network sharing is
deliberately obfuscated.
Out of the box Vista expects you will place anything you want to share on
the network in its "public" folders and nowhere else. That the public folder
exists only on your C drive, which there are good reasons not to share,
never seemed to have occurred to the brilliant programmers in Redmond. If
you can live with that arrangement your life will be easier.
It has been my sad experience that it can take multiple tries and reboots to
get the sharing/ownership permissions to work properly. This can be very
frustrating if the computers are not physically near one another and you
have to go back and forth to see if following the instructions has actually
worked (as alas it often does not). The combination of XP and Vista on a
network is doubly frustrating as the rules for sharing network resources are
different (simpler on XP) and Vista has issues, never resolved, sharing with
wireless XP machines.
The problems are solvable but require more effort than it should.
At least you will soon be able to buy Vista SP3, I mean Windows 7, and start
over with new network rules.

Martins
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Re: xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Thanks for the information!! I have found the problem and am very impressed
by the Windows Network Problem Solver at http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm .
I probably would have never figuredthis one out without it! I hope this
helps the many others I have read recently in nuber of forums, newsgroups
etc,

The following quoted from http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm :

The RestrictAnonymous registry value
You have both the following symptoms:

a.. You can ping the computer by IP and by name.
b.. When you type on another computer, replacing computername with the
name of the inaccessible computer:
net view \\computername

you get one of the various "Error 5" error messages, like "System error 5
has occurred. Access is denied" or "Error 5: You do not currently have
access to this file. ..." (However, other commands, like

net use Z: \\computername\sharename

or typing the full network path into Windows Explorer may work.)

This can be caused by a registry setting named RestrictAnonymous. Go to the
computer which you cannot access, start a registry editor and change the
following registry value.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
\SYSTEM
\CurrentControlSet
\Control
\Lsa
Value name: RestrictAnonymous
Value type: DWORD

If the value is 1 or even 2, change it to 0, reboot and retest. If the
problem is solved, leave the value at zero. If not, you can change it back
if you like.

On my system it was set to 1 which means annoymous users "cannot display
lists of domain user names, nor share names. Also, these users cannot view
security permissions, and they cannot use all of the features of Windows
Explorer, Local Users and Groups, and other programs that enumerate users or
shares."

I amnot sure whether something ha changed the value to a one recently, or
whether they way the value is interpreted by Vista has changed because of
either a Microsoft update or by my installing the Visual Studio 2008
Proffesional software package.

In either case it has solved the problem for me and I hope this info is of
some help to some of the many others experiencing similar problems.

A huge thanks for the info once again!

Martins





"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message
news:16spl4ljs22ganv53qdipp5mh2hrkltd7p@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:02:12 -0800, Martins wrote:
>
>> My Vista Business system is sharing its internet connection with
>> 2
>>XP computers ( 1 Pro, the other home edition). I did not have a problem
>>until recently. The XP computers have no problem accessing the internet,
>>and I have installed and used a printer shared from the Vista system on
>>the
>>XP home edition computer. I cannot access or even see the shared folders
>>on
>>the Vista system. When either xp system expands My Network Places->Entire
>>Network->Microsoft Windows Network->workgroup all of the connected pcs
>>are
>>displayed, clicking on the +next to the Vista's systemname makes the +
>>disappear, and clicking on the name gets the following error message " \\
>>Martins-new-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>>this
>>network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
>>you have permissions. Access denied."
>>
>> Vista Network & Sharing Center has network listed as private with
>>Network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and printer sharing
>>all on. Password protected sharing and Media sharing are off. I have read
>>all of the troubleshooting help files and am at a loss. All shares give
>>'Everyone' permission to access.The xp computers were able to access Vista
>>shares about two weeks ago andbefore that with no problem. In the interim
>>I
>>have installed Visual Studio .Net 2008 plus recent automatic windows
>>updates. I feel that there is probably a simple solution since ICS and
>>printer sharing are working fine.
>
> Martins,
>
> first of all, do yourself a favor and buy a suitable router.
> Even the cheapest router is better than an
> Internet-connection-sharing computer, and a simple router is
> truly cheap.
>
> Apart from that, the basic information is at
> http://winhlp.com/node/179 . If that doesn't cut it, check
> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm .
>
> Hans-Georg
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Re: xp cannot access shared folders, vista can, xp can access printer
Posted: 01-02-2009, 11:54 AM
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:26:19 -0800, Martins wrote:
>Thanks for the information!! I have found the problem and am very impressed
>by the Windows Network Problem Solver at http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm .
>I probably would have never figured this one out without it! I hope this
>helps the many others I have read recently in number of forums, newsgroups
>etc.
>
>The following quoted from http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm : ...
Martins,

thanks, good to hear that it helped.

Some background info

If anybody is interested in the background, the reason why I
wrote the Windows Network Problem Solver is that, for each set
of symptoms, and there are very many possible combinations,
there is a number of always different potential causes that are
very difficult to diagnose in a newsgroup discussion.

The Windows Network Problem Solver works by filling in a form,
then a Javascript program selects and displays all possible
causes. The sheer amount of unfiltered and even filtered
information makes it unlikely that any newsgroup discussion,
except perhaps a very long one, can achieve this for any but the
few most likely causes.

The downside is that writing such a page requires a considerable
effort, and it takes a lot of enthusiasm to do that without
getting paid for it. (:-)

Hans-Georg
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