XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
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| Uncle Henry |
> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder with
> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I saw
> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
> nothing concerning XP.
>
> I was going to get into making videos of various events.
> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy a
> small car.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
| PapaJohn \(MVP\) |
>-----Original Message-----and let Windows
>Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration, reboot
>re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....in message
>--
>PapaJohn
>
>Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
>Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>
>..
>"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...with>> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder
saw>> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I
a>> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
>> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
>> nothing concerning XP.
>>
>> I was going to get into making videos of various events.
>> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy
>> small car.>
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>.
>
| Uncle Henry |
> Thank you for getting back to me.
>
> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then - nothing.
>
> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting does
> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned Canon,
> but it was only scanners and printers.
>
> I tried just loading it from the disk. It wouldn't "take."
>
> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
> changed something in my BIOS?
>
> This is a pure mystery to me.
>
> Thanks again for your input.
>
> Henry> >-----Original Message-----> and let Windows
> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration, reboot> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....> in message
> >--
> >PapaJohn
> >
> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >
> >..
> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...> with> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder> saw> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I> a> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
> >> nothing concerning XP.
> >>
> >> I was going to get into making videos of various events.
> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy> >> small car.> >
> >>
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
> >.
> >
| Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media |
>-----Original Message-----fine.
>Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all be
>When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, foundnew hardware?
>Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?machine to see if
>Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting the
>that helps, as it finds the drivers again.codecs etc since it
>Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any
>was working well? If so try using system restore oruninstalling the apps.
>Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see ifeither has developed
>a fault.in message
>
>Graham
>--
>Graham Hughes
>MVP Digital Media
>www.simplydv.co.uk
>
>"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>news:16bf201c44810$3b2a6fd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...nothing.>> Thank you for getting back to me.
>>
>> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then -
does>>
>> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting
Canon,>> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
>> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
>> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
>> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned
wouldn't "take.">> but it was only scanners and printers.
>>
>> I tried just loading it from the disk. It
reboot>>
>> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
>> changed something in my BIOS?
>>
>> This is a pure mystery to me.
>>
>> Thanks again for your input.
>>
>> Henry>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration,
wrote>> and let Windows>> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
>> >--
>> >PapaJohn
>> >
>> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
>> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> >
>> >..
>> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
find>> in message>> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...>> with
>> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder>> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I>> saw>> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
>> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can
events.>> >> nothing concerning XP.
>> >>
>> >> I was going to get into making videos of various
buy>> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to
>> a>>> >> small car.
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>
> I have been going around and around trying to find out
> what I have done to my PC.
>
> The main ingredients:
> ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard with the IEEE 1394 built-
> in.
> Windows XP pro with SP1
> Pinnacle Studio 8 (with the recent update)
> Canon GL2 DV Camcorder
> 1 Meg Corsair Ram
>
> Loading movies into the PC worked fine for about three
> weeks - then nothing. Device Manager does not show any
> conflicts - nor does it show the DV Camcorder. I have
> tried every way I can think of to get the driver re-
> installed. The PC does not recognize the camcorder and
> will not take the driver off of the CD when I try to force
> it in.
>
> From what I can read, the camcorder's driver has to be in
> the inf Folder under WINDOWS. Actually, it has to be in
> an oem file within the inf folder. The oem files have a
> number as their last digit; e.g., oem0, oem1, etc. The
> computer will automatically put an oem.PNF file
> immediately under the oem.inf file when there is a driver
> inside the oem.inf listing. The best way to understand
> what I am trying to say is to use Explorer and look at
> what is on your machine.
>
> In looking at my PC, I see that oem3.inf and oem6.inf are
> empty. I am led to believe that, in my case, the unzipped
> version of CANDV_XP.INF (downloaded from Canon) goes in
> one of the oem files and a driver with a name similar to
> MICROSOFT DV CAMERA AND VCR goes under the other.
>
> So, if I'm so smart, why haven't I solved the problem?
> First, I don't know where to find the Microsoft driver.
> Second, I am not sure of myself in this area. I'm
> reluctant to try because I might mess this thing up so
> badly that the parts of it that work might never work
> again. I paid enough for this PC and the semi-pro camera
> to buy a good second-hand car.
>
> I would appreciate any feedback, especially info on how to
> find the Microsoft DV camera and VCR driver..
>
> Thank you.
>> >-----Original Message-----> fine.
> >Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all be> >When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, found> new hardware?> >Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?> machine to see if
> >Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting the> >that helps, as it finds the drivers again.> codecs etc since it
> >Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any> >was working well? If so try using system restore or> uninstalling the apps.> >Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see if> either has developed> >a fault.> in message
> >
> >Graham
> >--
> >Graham Hughes
> >MVP Digital Media
> >www.simplydv.co.uk
> >
> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote> >news:16bf201c44810$3b2a6fd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...> nothing.> >> Thank you for getting back to me.
> >>
> >> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then -> does> >>
> >> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting> Canon,> >> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
> >> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
> >> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
> >> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned> wouldn't "take."> >> but it was only scanners and printers.
> >>
> >> I tried just loading it from the disk. It> reboot> >>
> >> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
> >> changed something in my BIOS?
> >>
> >> This is a pure mystery to me.
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your input.
> >>
> >> Henry
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration,> wrote> >> and let Windows
> >> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
> >> >--
> >> >PapaJohn
> >> >
> >> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> >> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >> >
> >> >..
> >> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>> find> >> in message
> >> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder
> >> with
> >> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I
> >> saw
> >> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
> >> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can> events.> >> >> nothing concerning XP.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was going to get into making videos of various> buy> >> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to> >> a> >
> >> >> small car.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >.
> >
| Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media |
>-----Original Message-----the motherboard?
>Is the firewire port on a separate pci card or part of
>The canon drivers will normally be for using things likethe usb connection
>for download from the media card, the firewire portshould use generic
>windows drivers, so long as it is ohci compliant. Whatdoes it say for
>drivers in device manager for the ieee1394 bus hostcontroller?
>Have you uninstalled the device from device manager andthen tried
>re-installing it? and if it is a pci card, afteruninstalling the device,
>remove the card, boot up the pc, replace card in adifferent pci slot if
>possible and then reboot and allow windows to find thedrivers.
>Have you been able to try the cam and cable elsewhere?built-
>
>Graham
>
>
>--
>Graham Hughes
>MVP Digital Media
>www.simplydv.co.uk
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:1814c01c44a37$c579ff60$a301280a@phx.gbl...>> I have been going around and around trying to find out
>> what I have done to my PC.
>>
>> The main ingredients:
>> ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard with the IEEE 1394
force>> in.
>> Windows XP pro with SP1
>> Pinnacle Studio 8 (with the recent update)
>> Canon GL2 DV Camcorder
>> 1 Meg Corsair Ram
>>
>> Loading movies into the PC worked fine for about three
>> weeks - then nothing. Device Manager does not show any
>> conflicts - nor does it show the DV Camcorder. I have
>> tried every way I can think of to get the driver re-
>> installed. The PC does not recognize the camcorder and
>> will not take the driver off of the CD when I try to
in>> it in.
>>
>> From what I can read, the camcorder's driver has to be
driver>> the inf Folder under WINDOWS. Actually, it has to be in
>> an oem file within the inf folder. The oem files have a
>> number as their last digit; e.g., oem0, oem1, etc. The
>> computer will automatically put an oem.PNF file
>> immediately under the oem.inf file when there is a
are>> inside the oem.inf listing. The best way to understand
>> what I am trying to say is to use Explorer and look at
>> what is on your machine.
>>
>> In looking at my PC, I see that oem3.inf and oem6.inf
unzipped>> empty. I am led to believe that, in my case, the
camera>> version of CANDV_XP.INF (downloaded from Canon) goes in
>> one of the oem files and a driver with a name similar to
>> MICROSOFT DV CAMERA AND VCR goes under the other.
>>
>> So, if I'm so smart, why haven't I solved the problem?
>> First, I don't know where to find the Microsoft driver.
>> Second, I am not sure of myself in this area. I'm
>> reluctant to try because I might mess this thing up so
>> badly that the parts of it that work might never work
>> again. I paid enough for this PC and the semi-pro
to>> to buy a good second-hand car.
>>
>> I would appreciate any feedback, especially info on how
be>> find the Microsoft DV camera and VCR driver..
>>
>> Thank you.
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all
the>> fine.>> >When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, found>> new hardware?>> >Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?
>> >Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting
wrote>> machine to see if>> >that helps, as it finds the drivers again.>> codecs etc since it
>> >Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any>> >was working well? If so try using system restore or>> uninstalling the apps.>> >Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see if>> either has developed>> >a fault.
>> >
>> >Graham
>> >--
>> >Graham Hughes
>> >MVP Digital Media
>> >www.simplydv.co.uk
>> >
>> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
for>> in message>> >news:16bf201c44810$3b2a6fd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...>> nothing.
>> >> Thank you for getting back to me.
>> >>
>> >> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then ->> >>>> does
>> >> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting>> >> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
>> >> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
>> >> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there
or>> >> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned>> Canon,>> >> but it was only scanners and printers.>> wouldn't "take."
>> >>
>> >> I tried just loading it from the disk. It>> >>
>> >> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where
camcorder>> >> changed something in my BIOS?>> reboot
>> >>
>> >> This is a pure mystery to me.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for your input.
>> >>
>> >> Henry
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration,>> >> and let Windows>> wrote
>> >> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
>> >> >--
>> >> >PapaJohn
>> >> >
>> >> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
>> >> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> >> >
>> >> >..
>> >> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>>> >> in message
>> >> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital
it. I>> >> with
>> >> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores
of>> >> saw
>> >> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version
to>> >> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can>> find>> >> >> nothing concerning XP.>> events.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was going to get into making videos of various>> >> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera
>> buy>>> >> a
>> >> >> small car.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>
| Uncle Henry |
| John Kelly |
> Hello there,built
>
> No really good news I'm afraid. Your problem is typical for all computer
> users where these devices and graphics boards sound board etc etc are
> into the system. You can not remove the device from the operating systemmost
> because you cannot properly reboot the system and allow it to settle down
> without the device before you re-install.
>
> A solution I used last night when an XP box would not "forget" the device
> that in this case had actually been removed was to install a backup made
> before the device was ever installed. For me that worked a treat, but only
> because it was a full backup.
>
> The problem arises because Windows does not clean up behind itself and
> installed programs do not uninstall properly. As soon as you start thefiles
> machine and it discovers a new device it will look for the necessary
> and when it finds it you end up back where you started....device
>
> Solutions
> =======
>
> 1) Remove the CMOS battery backup and wait around 8 hrs, or if you know
> which pins to short out do that and reset the CMOS. Then disable the
> in the CMOS so that XP (In theory) will not see the device. Then you go
> through the uninstall procedure, reboot the computer for the reason above
> and to be assured that XP does not see the device. Then reverse the CMOS
> setting simply by enabling the device and go through the new device
> procedure. If this procedure fails (not likely but possible) then you need
> option 2.
>
> 2) Use either your System restore disks or XP install disk and wipe
> everything from your system and start afresh
>
> If I can help further let me know.....I would be surprised if option one
> fails....make sure you understand what you are doing and why before you
> touch it and make sure you have properly earthed yourself before touching
> the motherboard.
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
| Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media |
> Hello There,time
>
> To all of you who sent emails about the website, and for any of you who
> might wonder what's going on....I took an overdose of idiot pills some
> this afternoon....and deleted most of the website from the server!!! Ithinking
> actually sat there watching one directory after another vanish and
> "that seems to be taking rather a long time" Well it took long enough for"John Kelly" <not.released@dot.com> wrote in message
> most of the site to disappear.
>
> The complete web site is now uploading, as it is rather large this will
> take some time to achieve So please hang on...service will be resumed as
> soon as the idiots pills wear off!
>
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
> Hello there,built
>
> No really good news I'm afraid. Your problem is typical for all computer
> users where these devices and graphics boards sound board etc etc are
> into the system. You can not remove the device from the operating systemmost
> because you cannot properly reboot the system and allow it to settle down
> without the device before you re-install.
>
> A solution I used last night when an XP box would not "forget" the device
> that in this case had actually been removed was to install a backup made
> before the device was ever installed. For me that worked a treat, but only
> because it was a full backup.
>
> The problem arises because Windows does not clean up behind itself and
> installed programs do not uninstall properly. As soon as you start thefiles
> machine and it discovers a new device it will look for the necessary
> and when it finds it you end up back where you started....device
>
> Solutions
> =======
>
> 1) Remove the CMOS battery backup and wait around 8 hrs, or if you know
> which pins to short out do that and reset the CMOS. Then disable the
> in the CMOS so that XP (In theory) will not see the device. Then you go
> through the uninstall procedure, reboot the computer for the reason above
> and to be assured that XP does not see the device. Then reverse the CMOS
> setting simply by enabling the device and go through the new device
> procedure. If this procedure fails (not likely but possible) then you need
> option 2.
>
> 2) Use either your System restore disks or XP install disk and wipe
> everything from your system and start afresh
>
> If I can help further let me know.....I would be surprised if option one
> fails....make sure you understand what you are doing and why before you
> touch it and make sure you have properly earthed yourself before touching
> the motherboard.
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
| Rich |
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