XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder

Posted: 06-01-2004, 04:04 AM
At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder with
the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I saw
where this was a problem with an earlier version of
Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
nothing concerning XP.

I was going to get into making videos of various events.
I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy a
small car.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder


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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-01-2004, 05:39 PM
Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration, reboot and let Windows
re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
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"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder with
> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I saw
> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
> nothing concerning XP.
>
> I was going to get into making videos of various events.
> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy a
> small car.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks

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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-01-2004, 07:40 PM
Thank you for getting back to me.

For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then - nothing.

It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting does
no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned Canon,
but it was only scanners and printers.

I tried just loading it from the disk. It wouldn't "take."

Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
changed something in my BIOS?

This is a pure mystery to me.

Thanks again for your input.

Henry
>-----Original Message-----
>Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration, reboot
and let Windows
>re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
>--
>PapaJohn
>
>Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
>Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>
>..
>"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder
with
>> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I
saw
>> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
>> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
>> nothing concerning XP.
>>
>> I was going to get into making videos of various events.
>> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy
a
>> small car.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
>.
>
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Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media
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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-03-2004, 08:34 PM
Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all be fine.
When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, found new hardware?
Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?
Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting the machine to see if
that helps, as it finds the drivers again.
Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any codecs etc since it
was working well? If so try using system restore or uninstalling the apps.
Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see if either has developed
a fault.

Graham
--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.simplydv.co.uk

"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you for getting back to me.
>
> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then - nothing.
>
> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting does
> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned Canon,
> but it was only scanners and printers.
>
> I tried just loading it from the disk. It wouldn't "take."
>
> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
> changed something in my BIOS?
>
> This is a pure mystery to me.
>
> Thanks again for your input.
>
> Henry
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration, reboot
> and let Windows
> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
> >--
> >PapaJohn
> >
> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >
> >..
> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message
> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder
> with
> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I
> saw
> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can find
> >> nothing concerning XP.
> >>
> >> I was going to get into making videos of various events.
> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to buy
> a
> >> small car.
> >>
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-04-2004, 01:28 PM
I have been going around and around trying to find out
what I have done to my PC.

The main ingredients:
ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard with the IEEE 1394 built-
in.
Windows XP pro with SP1
Pinnacle Studio 8 (with the recent update)
Canon GL2 DV Camcorder
1 Meg Corsair Ram

Loading movies into the PC worked fine for about three
weeks - then nothing. Device Manager does not show any
conflicts - nor does it show the DV Camcorder. I have
tried every way I can think of to get the driver re-
installed. The PC does not recognize the camcorder and
will not take the driver off of the CD when I try to force
it in.

From what I can read, the camcorder's driver has to be in
the inf Folder under WINDOWS. Actually, it has to be in
an oem file within the inf folder. The oem files have a
number as their last digit; e.g., oem0, oem1, etc. The
computer will automatically put an oem.PNF file
immediately under the oem.inf file when there is a driver
inside the oem.inf listing. The best way to understand
what I am trying to say is to use Explorer and look at
what is on your machine.

In looking at my PC, I see that oem3.inf and oem6.inf are
empty. I am led to believe that, in my case, the unzipped
version of CANDV_XP.INF (downloaded from Canon) goes in
one of the oem files and a driver with a name similar to
MICROSOFT DV CAMERA AND VCR goes under the other.

So, if I'm so smart, why haven't I solved the problem?
First, I don't know where to find the Microsoft driver.
Second, I am not sure of myself in this area. I'm
reluctant to try because I might mess this thing up so
badly that the parts of it that work might never work
again. I paid enough for this PC and the semi-pro camera
to buy a good second-hand car.

I would appreciate any feedback, especially info on how to
find the Microsoft DV camera and VCR driver..

Thank you.
>-----Original Message-----
>Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all be
fine.
>When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, found
new hardware?
>Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?
>Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting the
machine to see if
>that helps, as it finds the drivers again.
>Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any
codecs etc since it
>was working well? If so try using system restore or
uninstalling the apps.
>Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see if
either has developed
>a fault.
>
>Graham
>--
>Graham Hughes
>MVP Digital Media
>www.simplydv.co.uk
>
>"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>news:16bf201c44810$3b2a6fd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for getting back to me.
>>
>> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then -
nothing.
>>
>> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting
does
>> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
>> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
>> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
>> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned
Canon,
>> but it was only scanners and printers.
>>
>> I tried just loading it from the disk. It
wouldn't "take."
>>
>> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
>> changed something in my BIOS?
>>
>> This is a pure mystery to me.
>>
>> Thanks again for your input.
>>
>> Henry
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration,
reboot
>> and let Windows
>> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
>> >--
>> >PapaJohn
>> >
>> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
>> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> >
>> >..
>> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
>> in message
>> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder
>> with
>> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I
>> saw
>> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
>> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can
find
>> >> nothing concerning XP.
>> >>
>> >> I was going to get into making videos of various
events.
>> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to
buy
>> a
>> >> small car.
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
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Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media
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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-04-2004, 01:46 PM
Is the firewire port on a separate pci card or part of the motherboard?
The canon drivers will normally be for using things like the usb connection
for download from the media card, the firewire port should use generic
windows drivers, so long as it is ohci compliant. What does it say for
drivers in device manager for the ieee1394 bus host controller?
Have you uninstalled the device from device manager and then tried
re-installing it? and if it is a pci card, after uninstalling the device,
remove the card, boot up the pc, replace card in a different pci slot if
possible and then reboot and allow windows to find the drivers.
Have you been able to try the cam and cable elsewhere?

Graham


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MVP Digital Media
www.simplydv.co.uk
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I have been going around and around trying to find out
> what I have done to my PC.
>
> The main ingredients:
> ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard with the IEEE 1394 built-
> in.
> Windows XP pro with SP1
> Pinnacle Studio 8 (with the recent update)
> Canon GL2 DV Camcorder
> 1 Meg Corsair Ram
>
> Loading movies into the PC worked fine for about three
> weeks - then nothing. Device Manager does not show any
> conflicts - nor does it show the DV Camcorder. I have
> tried every way I can think of to get the driver re-
> installed. The PC does not recognize the camcorder and
> will not take the driver off of the CD when I try to force
> it in.
>
> From what I can read, the camcorder's driver has to be in
> the inf Folder under WINDOWS. Actually, it has to be in
> an oem file within the inf folder. The oem files have a
> number as their last digit; e.g., oem0, oem1, etc. The
> computer will automatically put an oem.PNF file
> immediately under the oem.inf file when there is a driver
> inside the oem.inf listing. The best way to understand
> what I am trying to say is to use Explorer and look at
> what is on your machine.
>
> In looking at my PC, I see that oem3.inf and oem6.inf are
> empty. I am led to believe that, in my case, the unzipped
> version of CANDV_XP.INF (downloaded from Canon) goes in
> one of the oem files and a driver with a name similar to
> MICROSOFT DV CAMERA AND VCR goes under the other.
>
> So, if I'm so smart, why haven't I solved the problem?
> First, I don't know where to find the Microsoft driver.
> Second, I am not sure of myself in this area. I'm
> reluctant to try because I might mess this thing up so
> badly that the parts of it that work might never work
> again. I paid enough for this PC and the semi-pro camera
> to buy a good second-hand car.
>
> I would appreciate any feedback, especially info on how to
> find the Microsoft DV camera and VCR driver..
>
> Thank you.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all be
> fine.
> >When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, found
> new hardware?
> >Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?
> >Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting the
> machine to see if
> >that helps, as it finds the drivers again.
> >Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any
> codecs etc since it
> >was working well? If so try using system restore or
> uninstalling the apps.
> >Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see if
> either has developed
> >a fault.
> >
> >Graham
> >--
> >Graham Hughes
> >MVP Digital Media
> >www.simplydv.co.uk
> >
> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message
> >news:16bf201c44810$3b2a6fd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Thank you for getting back to me.
> >>
> >> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then -
> nothing.
> >>
> >> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting
> does
> >> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
> >> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
> >> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there for
> >> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned
> Canon,
> >> but it was only scanners and printers.
> >>
> >> I tried just loading it from the disk. It
> wouldn't "take."
> >>
> >> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where or
> >> changed something in my BIOS?
> >>
> >> This is a pure mystery to me.
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your input.
> >>
> >> Henry
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration,
> reboot
> >> and let Windows
> >> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
> >> >--
> >> >PapaJohn
> >> >
> >> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> >> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >> >
> >> >..
> >> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote
> >> in message
> >> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital camcorder
> >> with
> >> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores it. I
> >> saw
> >> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version of
> >> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can
> find
> >> >> nothing concerning XP.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was going to get into making videos of various
> events.
> >> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera to
> buy
> >> a
> >> >> small car.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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Uncle Henry
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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-04-2004, 05:41 PM
The Firewire port is built into the motherboard. I un-
and then re-installed it. Told the PC to look for a new
driver. Ended up where I started.

The information I copied is this: IEEE 1394 Bus host
controller. Location PCI bus 3, device 3, function 3.
Driver revision 5.1.2535.0 date 7/1/2001.

It worked fine for about three weeks, then just stopped.
I have been looking all over the Internet, and it seems
like this is happening to a lot of people with firewire
cameras - not just those with Canon products.

Thanks for helping me try to solve this mystery.

>-----Original Message-----
>Is the firewire port on a separate pci card or part of
the motherboard?
>The canon drivers will normally be for using things like
the usb connection
>for download from the media card, the firewire port
should use generic
>windows drivers, so long as it is ohci compliant. What
does it say for
>drivers in device manager for the ieee1394 bus host
controller?
>Have you uninstalled the device from device manager and
then tried
>re-installing it? and if it is a pci card, after
uninstalling the device,
>remove the card, boot up the pc, replace card in a
different pci slot if
>possible and then reboot and allow windows to find the
drivers.
>Have you been able to try the cam and cable elsewhere?
>
>Graham
>
>
>--
>Graham Hughes
>MVP Digital Media
>www.simplydv.co.uk
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:1814c01c44a37$c579ff60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> I have been going around and around trying to find out
>> what I have done to my PC.
>>
>> The main ingredients:
>> ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard with the IEEE 1394
built-
>> in.
>> Windows XP pro with SP1
>> Pinnacle Studio 8 (with the recent update)
>> Canon GL2 DV Camcorder
>> 1 Meg Corsair Ram
>>
>> Loading movies into the PC worked fine for about three
>> weeks - then nothing. Device Manager does not show any
>> conflicts - nor does it show the DV Camcorder. I have
>> tried every way I can think of to get the driver re-
>> installed. The PC does not recognize the camcorder and
>> will not take the driver off of the CD when I try to
force
>> it in.
>>
>> From what I can read, the camcorder's driver has to be
in
>> the inf Folder under WINDOWS. Actually, it has to be in
>> an oem file within the inf folder. The oem files have a
>> number as their last digit; e.g., oem0, oem1, etc. The
>> computer will automatically put an oem.PNF file
>> immediately under the oem.inf file when there is a
driver
>> inside the oem.inf listing. The best way to understand
>> what I am trying to say is to use Explorer and look at
>> what is on your machine.
>>
>> In looking at my PC, I see that oem3.inf and oem6.inf
are
>> empty. I am led to believe that, in my case, the
unzipped
>> version of CANDV_XP.INF (downloaded from Canon) goes in
>> one of the oem files and a driver with a name similar to
>> MICROSOFT DV CAMERA AND VCR goes under the other.
>>
>> So, if I'm so smart, why haven't I solved the problem?
>> First, I don't know where to find the Microsoft driver.
>> Second, I am not sure of myself in this area. I'm
>> reluctant to try because I might mess this thing up so
>> badly that the parts of it that work might never work
>> again. I paid enough for this PC and the semi-pro
camera
>> to buy a good second-hand car.
>>
>> I would appreciate any feedback, especially info on how
to
>> find the Microsoft DV camera and VCR driver..
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Unless you have been playing in teh bios it should all
be
>> fine.
>> >When you connect the cam do you get the xp ping, found
>> new hardware?
>> >Does device manager show any yellow ! marks?
>> >Try uninstalling the firewire card and then rebooting
the
>> machine to see if
>> >that helps, as it finds the drivers again.
>> >Have you installed any other software/ downloaded any
>> codecs etc since it
>> >was working well? If so try using system restore or
>> uninstalling the apps.
>> >Can you try the cam and cable on another pc? To see if
>> either has developed
>> >a fault.
>> >
>> >Graham
>> >--
>> >Graham Hughes
>> >MVP Digital Media
>> >www.simplydv.co.uk
>> >
>> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
>> in message
>> >news:16bf201c44810$3b2a6fd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Thank you for getting back to me.
>> >>
>> >> For a while, the camera worked perfectly. Then -
>> nothing.
>> >>
>> >> It is no longer listed among my devices. Restarting
>> does
>> >> no good. I tried to manually install it by going to
>> >> Scanners and Cameras. Canon is not listed among the
>> >> Cameras. I tried Imaging Devices, but nothing there
for
>> >> Canon, either. I did find one group that mentioned
>> Canon,
>> >> but it was only scanners and printers.
>> >>
>> >> I tried just loading it from the disk. It
>> wouldn't "take."
>> >>
>> >> Could I have accidentally moved a jumper some where
or
>> >> changed something in my BIOS?
>> >>
>> >> This is a pure mystery to me.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for your input.
>> >>
>> >> Henry
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Maybe delete it from your hardware configuration,
>> reboot
>> >> and let Windows
>> >> >re-detect it and setup the 'drivers' again....
>> >> >--
>> >> >PapaJohn
>> >> >
>> >> >Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
>> >> >Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> >> >
>> >> >..
>> >> >"Uncle Henry" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote
>> >> in message
>> >> >news:1644e01c4478d$82581cf0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> At first, I had no problem using my digital
camcorder
>> >> with
>> >> >> the IEEE hookup. Now, Windows totally ignores
it. I
>> >> saw
>> >> >> where this was a problem with an earlier version
of
>> >> >> Windows (Win98, I believe). Unfortunately, I can
>> find
>> >> >> nothing concerning XP.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was going to get into making videos of various
>> events.
>> >> >> I have enough money sunk into this PC and camera
to
>> buy
>> >> a
>> >> >> small car.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
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John Kelly
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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-04-2004, 07:39 PM
Hello there,

No really good news I'm afraid. Your problem is typical for all computer
users where these devices and graphics boards sound board etc etc are built
into the system. You can not remove the device from the operating system
because you cannot properly reboot the system and allow it to settle down
without the device before you re-install.

A solution I used last night when an XP box would not "forget" the device
that in this case had actually been removed was to install a backup made
before the device was ever installed. For me that worked a treat, but only
because it was a full backup.

The problem arises because Windows does not clean up behind itself and most
installed programs do not uninstall properly. As soon as you start the
machine and it discovers a new device it will look for the necessary files
and when it finds it you end up back where you started....

Solutions
=======

1) Remove the CMOS battery backup and wait around 8 hrs, or if you know
which pins to short out do that and reset the CMOS. Then disable the device
in the CMOS so that XP (In theory) will not see the device. Then you go
through the uninstall procedure, reboot the computer for the reason above
and to be assured that XP does not see the device. Then reverse the CMOS
setting simply by enabling the device and go through the new device
procedure. If this procedure fails (not likely but possible) then you need
option 2.

2) Use either your System restore disks or XP install disk and wipe
everything from your system and start afresh

If I can help further let me know.....I would be surprised if option one
fails....make sure you understand what you are doing and why before you
touch it and make sure you have properly earthed yourself before touching
the motherboard.
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Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media
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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-05-2004, 08:15 AM
I'd go with John's suggestions now and my thought's would be a fresh
install of XP, which is always worth doing now and then, because if you have
installed and uninstalled programmes there is always lots of crap left
behind. This is where you find keeping a ghost image of your initial working
set up very useful, as it's a lot easier to get set up than a complete
installation of lots of apps, and it's only when we meet something like this
that we then decide to do it for next time!!!!!!!!! Well I did anyway. If
you don't have a copy buy either norton ghost or powerquest drive image (my
favourite) and after re-installing xp and all your apps, make a copy of it
all and save it away somewhere safe.
Graham
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www.simplydv.co.uk

"John Kelly" <not.released@dot.com> wrote in message
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> Hello there,
>
> No really good news I'm afraid. Your problem is typical for all computer
> users where these devices and graphics boards sound board etc etc are
built
> into the system. You can not remove the device from the operating system
> because you cannot properly reboot the system and allow it to settle down
> without the device before you re-install.
>
> A solution I used last night when an XP box would not "forget" the device
> that in this case had actually been removed was to install a backup made
> before the device was ever installed. For me that worked a treat, but only
> because it was a full backup.
>
> The problem arises because Windows does not clean up behind itself and
most
> installed programs do not uninstall properly. As soon as you start the
> machine and it discovers a new device it will look for the necessary
files
> and when it finds it you end up back where you started....
>
> Solutions
> =======
>
> 1) Remove the CMOS battery backup and wait around 8 hrs, or if you know
> which pins to short out do that and reset the CMOS. Then disable the
device
> in the CMOS so that XP (In theory) will not see the device. Then you go
> through the uninstall procedure, reboot the computer for the reason above
> and to be assured that XP does not see the device. Then reverse the CMOS
> setting simply by enabling the device and go through the new device
> procedure. If this procedure fails (not likely but possible) then you need
> option 2.
>
> 2) Use either your System restore disks or XP install disk and wipe
> everything from your system and start afresh
>
> If I can help further let me know.....I would be surprised if option one
> fails....make sure you understand what you are doing and why before you
> touch it and make sure you have properly earthed yourself before touching
> the motherboard.
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

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Re: XP Pro no longer recognizes my camcorder
Posted: 06-11-2004, 03:34 PM
"John Kelly" <hidden@hide.away> wrote in message
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> Hello There,
>
> To all of you who sent emails about the website, and for any of you who
> might wonder what's going on....I took an overdose of idiot pills some
time
> this afternoon....and deleted most of the website from the server!!! I
> actually sat there watching one directory after another vanish and
thinking
> "that seems to be taking rather a long time" Well it took long enough for
> most of the site to disappear.
>
> The complete web site is now uploading, as it is rather large this will
> take some time to achieve So please hang on...service will be resumed as
> soon as the idiots pills wear off!
>
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
"John Kelly" <not.released@dot.com> wrote in message
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> Hello there,
>
> No really good news I'm afraid. Your problem is typical for all computer
> users where these devices and graphics boards sound board etc etc are
built
> into the system. You can not remove the device from the operating system
> because you cannot properly reboot the system and allow it to settle down
> without the device before you re-install.
>
> A solution I used last night when an XP box would not "forget" the device
> that in this case had actually been removed was to install a backup made
> before the device was ever installed. For me that worked a treat, but only
> because it was a full backup.
>
> The problem arises because Windows does not clean up behind itself and
most
> installed programs do not uninstall properly. As soon as you start the
> machine and it discovers a new device it will look for the necessary
files
> and when it finds it you end up back where you started....
>
> Solutions
> =======
>
> 1) Remove the CMOS battery backup and wait around 8 hrs, or if you know
> which pins to short out do that and reset the CMOS. Then disable the
device
> in the CMOS so that XP (In theory) will not see the device. Then you go
> through the uninstall procedure, reboot the computer for the reason above
> and to be assured that XP does not see the device. Then reverse the CMOS
> setting simply by enabling the device and go through the new device
> procedure. If this procedure fails (not likely but possible) then you need
> option 2.
>
> 2) Use either your System restore disks or XP install disk and wipe
> everything from your system and start afresh
>
> If I can help further let me know.....I would be surprised if option one
> fails....make sure you understand what you are doing and why before you
> touch it and make sure you have properly earthed yourself before touching
> the motherboard.
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

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