XP unable to ping.

Posted: 02-28-2004, 09:57 PM
I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
server or map anything.

The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
the subnet.
The default gateway is correct - the router address.
The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
over the tunnel.
The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to the
Netgear router.

What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using the
IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 02-29-2004, 04:02 AM
From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you ping the XP
home computer by IP address?

WBM wrote:
> I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
> sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
> lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
> working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
> through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
> W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
> address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
> server or map anything.
>
> The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
> the subnet.
> The default gateway is correct - the router address.
> The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
> over the tunnel.
> The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
> The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
> File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to the
> Netgear router.
>
> What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using the
> IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?

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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 02-29-2004, 02:31 PM
Yes.

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message news:<evhjxOo$DHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you ping the XP
> home computer by IP address?
>
> WBM wrote:
> > I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
> > sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
> > lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
> > working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
> > through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
> > W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
> > address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
> > server or map anything.
> >
> > The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
> > the subnet.
> > The default gateway is correct - the router address.
> > The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
> > over the tunnel.
> > The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
> > The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
> > File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to the
> > Netgear router.
> >
> > What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using the
> > IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?
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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 02-29-2004, 03:14 PM
Hmmm - and I presume you can ping the XP computer's IP from within the
NetGear interface as well? Have you checked the NetGear to make sure that IP
address is not being excluded (this is a WAG)? If you temporarily disable
the VPN tunnel, can the computer at least get to the Internet (ping your DNS
server's IP)

WBM wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:<evhjxOo$DHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
>> From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you ping
>> the XP home computer by IP address?
>>
>> WBM wrote:
>>> I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
>>> sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
>>> lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
>>> working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
>>> through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
>>> W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
>>> address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
>>> server or map anything.
>>>
>>> The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
>>> the subnet.
>>> The default gateway is correct - the router address.
>>> The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
>>> over the tunnel.
>>> The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
>>> The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
>>> File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to
>>> the Netgear router.
>>>
>>> What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using
>>> the IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?

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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 03-01-2004, 01:21 AM
I have no excluded addresses in the class. The weird part is the
system can ping the Internet DNS server any time. The Internet
connection works just fine with tunnel active or not. It just refuses
to route packets to the router for another private LAN. The server lan
is a class A and the Netgear side is a class C. By viewing traffic
received by the router, it seems that any reference to the class A lan
never makes it to the router.

This strongly points to the gateway as the problem but IPCONFIG says
the gateway is fine and the Internet pages have no problem.

I have set up at least two dozen of these routers and have never had a
problem with the VPN connection, but this is the first XP workstation
I have used as a client. I thought this was some new XP bug/feature I
was not privy to. Short of formating the sucker and reloading 2K I'm
stumped.




"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message news:<uzQis8t$DHA.1700@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> Hmmm - and I presume you can ping the XP computer's IP from within the
> NetGear interface as well? Have you checked the NetGear to make sure that IP
> address is not being excluded (this is a WAG)? If you temporarily disable
> the VPN tunnel, can the computer at least get to the Internet (ping your DNS
> server's IP)
>
> WBM wrote:
> > Yes.
> >
> > Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:<evhjxOo$DHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> >> From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you ping
> >> the XP home computer by IP address?
> >>
> >> WBM wrote:
> >>> I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
> >>> sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
> >>> lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
> >>> working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
> >>> through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
> >>> W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
> >>> address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
> >>> server or map anything.
> >>>
> >>> The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
> >>> the subnet.
> >>> The default gateway is correct - the router address.
> >>> The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
> >>> over the tunnel.
> >>> The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
> >>> The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
> >>> File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to
> >>> the Netgear router.
> >>>
> >>> What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using
> >>> the IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?
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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 03-01-2004, 05:12 AM
Allow me here to suggest a "route print" command at the XP Workstation. Here
you are looking for wrong static entries that may mislead the traffic to the
remote Private LAN. If you find an entry that may do so, just delete it. Or
alternatively you may add a static route entry at the XP workstation (with
"route add" command) then trying to access the W2K server. Instead of "PING"
try using the "tracert" command that may give you more useful information on
the path your traffic is taking.


"WBM" <wbm@netwired.ws> wrote in message
news:4b9830a.0402291821.770d4c93@posting.google.co m...
> I have no excluded addresses in the class. The weird part is the
> system can ping the Internet DNS server any time. The Internet
> connection works just fine with tunnel active or not. It just refuses
> to route packets to the router for another private LAN. The server lan
> is a class A and the Netgear side is a class C. By viewing traffic
> received by the router, it seems that any reference to the class A lan
> never makes it to the router.
>
> This strongly points to the gateway as the problem but IPCONFIG says
> the gateway is fine and the Internet pages have no problem.
>
> I have set up at least two dozen of these routers and have never had a
> problem with the VPN connection, but this is the first XP workstation
> I have used as a client. I thought this was some new XP bug/feature I
> was not privy to. Short of formating the sucker and reloading 2K I'm
> stumped.
>
>
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<uzQis8t$DHA.1700@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> > Hmmm - and I presume you can ping the XP computer's IP from within the
> > NetGear interface as well? Have you checked the NetGear to make sure
that IP
> > address is not being excluded (this is a WAG)? If you temporarily
disable
> > the VPN tunnel, can the computer at least get to the Internet (ping your
DNS
> > server's IP)
> >
> > WBM wrote:
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
> > > message news:<evhjxOo$DHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> > >> From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you ping
> > >> the XP home computer by IP address?
> > >>
> > >> WBM wrote:
> > >>> I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
> > >>> sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
> > >>> lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
> > >>> working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
> > >>> through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
> > >>> W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
> > >>> address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
> > >>> server or map anything.
> > >>>
> > >>> The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
> > >>> the subnet.
> > >>> The default gateway is correct - the router address.
> > >>> The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
> > >>> over the tunnel.
> > >>> The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
> > >>> The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
> > >>> File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to
> > >>> the Netgear router.
> > >>>
> > >>> What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using
> > >>> the IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?

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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 03-05-2004, 06:08 AM
Thanks Mohamed and Lanwench for all of the suggestions. It was a great
help to bounce the problem off of someone else in my field.

Final status:

I ran tracert and it never pinged the first address, not even the
router.
I did a route print and saw nothing out of the ordinary. Just for good
measure, I entered a route for all of the server networks addresses
(10.0.0.0) to go to the router address. I gave it a metric of 1. This
should have overridden the gateway and any other route. No difference.
As a control, I setup a second workstation, this time with XP
proffesional. It works perfectly. I said AhHa! Its the Home edition. I
formatted the Home edition and reloaded with Home again. Now it
works.!!?? A bad OS load the first time? The XP was a new system and
was untested with any network but I still don't know what was the
problem.

Thanks again to everyone.




"Mohamed Abdulla" <acs@kems.net> wrote in message news:<eQw9iR1$DHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> Allow me here to suggest a "route print" command at the XP Workstation. Here
> you are looking for wrong static entries that may mislead the traffic to the
> remote Private LAN. If you find an entry that may do so, just delete it. Or
> alternatively you may add a static route entry at the XP workstation (with
> "route add" command) then trying to access the W2K server. Instead of "PING"
> try using the "tracert" command that may give you more useful information on
> the path your traffic is taking.
>
>
> "WBM" <wbm@netwired.ws> wrote in message
> news:4b9830a.0402291821.770d4c93@posting.google.co m...
> > I have no excluded addresses in the class. The weird part is the
> > system can ping the Internet DNS server any time. The Internet
> > connection works just fine with tunnel active or not. It just refuses
> > to route packets to the router for another private LAN. The server lan
> > is a class A and the Netgear side is a class C. By viewing traffic
> > received by the router, it seems that any reference to the class A lan
> > never makes it to the router.
> >
> > This strongly points to the gateway as the problem but IPCONFIG says
> > the gateway is fine and the Internet pages have no problem.
> >
> > I have set up at least two dozen of these routers and have never had a
> > problem with the VPN connection, but this is the first XP workstation
> > I have used as a client. I thought this was some new XP bug/feature I
> > was not privy to. Short of formating the sucker and reloading 2K I'm
> > stumped.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<uzQis8t$DHA.1700@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> > > Hmmm - and I presume you can ping the XP computer's IP from within the
> > > NetGear interface as well? Have you checked the NetGear to make sure
> that IP
> > > address is not being excluded (this is a WAG)? If you temporarily
> disable
> > > the VPN tunnel, can the computer at least get to the Internet (ping your
> DNS
> > > server's IP)
> > >
> > > WBM wrote:
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > > > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
> > > > message news:<evhjxOo$DHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> > > >> From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you ping
> > > >> the XP home computer by IP address?
> > > >>
> > > >> WBM wrote:
> > > >>> I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro. The
> > > >>> sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear side is a
> > > >>> lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel is created and
> > > >>> working. The Netgear router can also ping the server IP address
> > > >>> through the tunnel. Two of the workstations on the Netgear side are
> > > >>> W2K pro systems. They can ping the server and map drives to the IP
> > > >>> address. One workstation is an XP home system. It cannot ping the
> > > >>> server or map anything.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is correct for
> > > >>> the subnet.
> > > >>> The default gateway is correct - the router address.
> > > >>> The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing beyond
> > > >>> over the tunnel.
> > > >>> The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
> > > >>> The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
> > > >>> File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting to
> > > >>> the Netgear router.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from using
> > > >>> the IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?
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Re: XP unable to ping.
Posted: 03-05-2004, 02:10 PM
Chalk it up to one of those "mysteries of the cosmos" things....glad it's
working now.

WBM wrote:
> Thanks Mohamed and Lanwench for all of the suggestions. It was a great
> help to bounce the problem off of someone else in my field.
>
> Final status:
>
> I ran tracert and it never pinged the first address, not even the
> router.
> I did a route print and saw nothing out of the ordinary. Just for good
> measure, I entered a route for all of the server networks addresses
> (10.0.0.0) to go to the router address. I gave it a metric of 1. This
> should have overridden the gateway and any other route. No difference.
> As a control, I setup a second workstation, this time with XP
> proffesional. It works perfectly. I said AhHa! Its the Home edition. I
> formatted the Home edition and reloaded with Home again. Now it
> works.!!?? A bad OS load the first time? The XP was a new system and
> was untested with any network but I still don't know what was the
> problem.
>
> Thanks again to everyone.
>
>
>
>
> "Mohamed Abdulla" <acs@kems.net> wrote in message
> news:<eQw9iR1$DHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
>> Allow me here to suggest a "route print" command at the XP
>> Workstation. Here you are looking for wrong static entries that may
>> mislead the traffic to the remote Private LAN. If you find an entry
>> that may do so, just delete it. Or alternatively you may add a
>> static route entry at the XP workstation (with "route add" command)
>> then trying to access the W2K server. Instead of "PING" try using
>> the "tracert" command that may give you more useful information on
>> the path your traffic is taking.
>>
>>
>> "WBM" <wbm@netwired.ws> wrote in message
>> news:4b9830a.0402291821.770d4c93@posting.google.co m...
>>> I have no excluded addresses in the class. The weird part is the
>>> system can ping the Internet DNS server any time. The Internet
>>> connection works just fine with tunnel active or not. It just
>>> refuses to route packets to the router for another private LAN. The
>>> server lan is a class A and the Netgear side is a class C. By
>>> viewing traffic received by the router, it seems that any reference
>>> to the class A lan never makes it to the router.
>>>
>>> This strongly points to the gateway as the problem but IPCONFIG says
>>> the gateway is fine and the Internet pages have no problem.
>>>
>
>
>>> I have set up at least two dozen of these routers and have never
>>> had a problem with the VPN connection, but this is the first XP
>>> workstation I have used as a client. I thought this was some new XP
>>> bug/feature I was not privy to. Short of formating the sucker and
>>> reloading 2K I'm stumped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:<uzQis8t$DHA.1700@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
>>>> Hmmm - and I presume you can ping the XP computer's IP from
>>>> within the NetGear interface as well? Have you checked the NetGear
>>>> to make sure
>> that IP
>>>> address is not being excluded (this is a WAG)? If you temporarily
>> disable
>>>> the VPN tunnel, can the computer at least get to the Internet
>>>> (ping your
>> DNS
>>>> server's IP)
>>>>
>>>> WBM wrote:
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> in message news:<evhjxOo$DHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
>>>>>> From one of the W2k workstations on the Netgear side, can you
>>>>>> ping the XP home computer by IP address?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WBM wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a Netgear FVS318 router connecting to a Sonicwall Pro.
>>>>>>> The sonicwall side is a network with a W2K server. The Netgear
>>>>>>> side is a lan with 3 workstations. The netgear shows the tunnel
>>>>>>> is created and working. The Netgear router can also ping the
>>>>>>> server IP address through the tunnel. Two of the workstations
>>>>>>> on the Netgear side are W2K pro systems. They can ping the
>>>>>>> server and map drives to the IP address. One workstation is an
>>>>>>> XP home system. It cannot ping the server or map anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The IP address for the XP system issued by the router is
>>>>>>> correct for the subnet.
>>>>>>> The default gateway is correct - the router address.
>>>>>>> The XP workstation can ping the Netgear router OK but nothing
>>>>>>> beyond over the tunnel.
>>>>>>> The XP system has Internet access as well through the router.
>>>>>>> The firewall on the XP box is turned off.
>>>>>>> File sharing is turned on for the Ethernet connector connecting
>>>>>>> to the Netgear router.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is different about the XP home OS that prevents it from
>>>>>>> using the IPSec tunnel??? Anything I missed?

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