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Old 04-15-2007, 08:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Yes, Another XP > Vista Networking Issue


Current Network Setup:
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?i...workmapsa4.jpg


Heres the situation:

there are two computers: EMACHINES and D8400.
EMACHINES is hardwired and D8400 is wireless.
EMACHINES has XP Home and D8400 has Vista Business
They are both on NETGEAR workgroup.
Both are logged in using an Administrator Account.

D8400 cant see EMACHINES in "network' but can access it through \\EMACHINES
and use printers and SharedDocs
EMACHINES can can see D8400 only in "Windows Home Network" and "Workgroup"
but after trying to access it, it comes up with an Access Denied/Permission
error.


All i would like is to be able to access each others shared folders, and
printers. Also to be able to see each other for LAN gaming.


Any help would be appreciated, thanks so much for this. ive had this problem
for a long time but i ignored it since i didnt need it that much, now i
upgraded to Vista from XP HOME and i need the file sharing. I included a map
that i made myself, to help aid u, as i understand the people with the
problems dont clearly describe their situation.

Also if it helps to know, i didnt clean install Vista, since my DVD drive
was a slave, therefore i couldnt boot from it. so i fresh installed XP then
upgraded from there.


cheers,
~statix

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Old 04-16-2007, 12:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
Default Re: Yes, Another XP > Vista Networking Issue

By default XP Home uses simple file sharing which is what I think your
problem is. XP home is trying to use the GUEST account and Vista doesn't do
that. Unfortunately in XP home you can't disable simple file sharing, but
you can work around it.

First, on your XP home machine create a user account with the same id and
password as the one you are using on the Vista machine.

Next to set the properties for the xp home machine on the shared folder


"statix" <statix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>
> Current Network Setup:
> http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?i...workmapsa4.jpg
>
>
> Heres the situation:
>
> there are two computers: EMACHINES and D8400.
> EMACHINES is hardwired and D8400 is wireless.
> EMACHINES has XP Home and D8400 has Vista Business
> They are both on NETGEAR workgroup.
> Both are logged in using an Administrator Account.
>
> D8400 cant see EMACHINES in "network' but can access it through
> \\EMACHINES
> and use printers and SharedDocs
> EMACHINES can can see D8400 only in "Windows Home Network" and "Workgroup"
> but after trying to access it, it comes up with an Access
> Denied/Permission
> error.
>
>
> All i would like is to be able to access each others shared folders, and
> printers. Also to be able to see each other for LAN gaming.
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks so much for this. ive had this
> problem
> for a long time but i ignored it since i didnt need it that much, now i
> upgraded to Vista from XP HOME and i need the file sharing. I included a
> map
> that i made myself, to help aid u, as i understand the people with the
> problems dont clearly describe their situation.
>
> Also if it helps to know, i didnt clean install Vista, since my DVD drive
> was a slave, therefore i couldnt boot from it. so i fresh installed XP
> then
> upgraded from there.
>
>
> cheers,
> ~statix
>
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
Default Re: Yes, Another XP > Vista Networking Issue

Sorry, hit the wrong key

To set the properties for the shared folder


1. Restart your computer in Safe Mode.
To do this, follow these steps:
Restart your computer. Before you see the Windows XP logo,
hold down the F8 key. Select Safe Mode.
2. Login in as Administrator. You’ll get a warning about running in Safe
Mode. Click Yes.
3. Find the folder whose permissions you wish to change.
4. Right click on that folder, and select Properties.
5. Change the properties of the desired folder(s).

Voila. You can now change all the properties of the folder just like you
would in Windows 2000.

You should set the share and folder security properties to grant the user
you created full control privileges to both the share and the underlying
folder.

See how that works.

J

"statix" <statix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>
> Current Network Setup:
> http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?i...workmapsa4.jpg
>
>
> Heres the situation:
>
> there are two computers: EMACHINES and D8400.
> EMACHINES is hardwired and D8400 is wireless.
> EMACHINES has XP Home and D8400 has Vista Business
> They are both on NETGEAR workgroup.
> Both are logged in using an Administrator Account.
>
> D8400 cant see EMACHINES in "network' but can access it through
> \\EMACHINES
> and use printers and SharedDocs
> EMACHINES can can see D8400 only in "Windows Home Network" and "Workgroup"
> but after trying to access it, it comes up with an Access
> Denied/Permission
> error.
>
>
> All i would like is to be able to access each others shared folders, and
> printers. Also to be able to see each other for LAN gaming.
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks so much for this. ive had this
> problem
> for a long time but i ignored it since i didnt need it that much, now i
> upgraded to Vista from XP HOME and i need the file sharing. I included a
> map
> that i made myself, to help aid u, as i understand the people with the
> problems dont clearly describe their situation.
>
> Also if it helps to know, i didnt clean install Vista, since my DVD drive
> was a slave, therefore i couldnt boot from it. so i fresh installed XP
> then
> upgraded from there.
>
>
> cheers,
> ~statix
>
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
Default RE: Yes, Another XP > Vista Networking Issue

What firewall are you running? I had access denied issues, it turned out to
be Norton's intrusion prevention that was causing the problem. Even though
the network address range was set to allow access it wasn't doing as it
should in the intrusion prevention. Sorted it by adding both laptop and
desktop address in the trusted section of the firewall. Now it works like a
dream.

Linda

"statix" wrote:
Quote:
>
> Current Network Setup:
> http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?i...workmapsa4.jpg
>
>
> Heres the situation:
>
> there are two computers: EMACHINES and D8400.
> EMACHINES is hardwired and D8400 is wireless.
> EMACHINES has XP Home and D8400 has Vista Business
> They are both on NETGEAR workgroup.
> Both are logged in using an Administrator Account.
>
> D8400 cant see EMACHINES in "network' but can access it through \\EMACHINES
> and use printers and SharedDocs
> EMACHINES can can see D8400 only in "Windows Home Network" and "Workgroup"
> but after trying to access it, it comes up with an Access Denied/Permission
> error.
>
>
> All i would like is to be able to access each others shared folders, and
> printers. Also to be able to see each other for LAN gaming.
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks so much for this. ive had this problem
> for a long time but i ignored it since i didnt need it that much, now i
> upgraded to Vista from XP HOME and i need the file sharing. I included a map
> that i made myself, to help aid u, as i understand the people with the
> problems dont clearly describe their situation.
>
> Also if it helps to know, i didnt clean install Vista, since my DVD drive
> was a slave, therefore i couldnt boot from it. so i fresh installed XP then
> upgraded from there.
>
>
> cheers,
> ~statix
>
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Joe Guidera;274234 Wrote:
Quote:
> By default XP Home uses simple file sharing which is what I think your
> problem is. XP home is trying to use the GUEST account and Vista
> doesn't do
> that. Unfortunately in XP home you can't disable simple file sharing,
> but
> you can work around it.
>
> First, on your XP home machine create a user account with the same id
> and
> password as the one you are using on the Vista machine.
>
> Next to set the properties for the xp home machine on the shared folder
>
>
> "statix" <statix@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1F89C721-50EE-46CF-866A-E3D55D75C7F1@microsoft.com...
>
>
Quote:
> >
Erm, you can disable Simple File Sharing in XP Home, You do it exactly
the same way you do
in XP Pro ie

Open Windows Explorer
Tools / Folder Options / View

Then Uncheck "Use Simple File sharing (Recommended)

Once you do this The Security tab becomes available in the Properties
box when you Right Click
on a File or Folder Where you can assign Folder Permissions for users
of that PC, Im not sure if
you can assign permissions for networked users using the Security Tab
though.


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